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Post by dschreib on Dec 4, 2018 16:17:23 GMT -6
I don't think it has stopped snowing all day in Vinita Park. Intensity picks up and it covers all of the cars in the parking lot, then it backs off and it all melts. Lather, rinse, repeat ever since I got here this morning at 6:30.
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Post by ajd446 on Dec 4, 2018 16:22:22 GMT -6
O found a spot at a clients house that had 4 inches on top of a shed I one corner where managed to be sun free and coldest. O would bet most of st.louis AMD st.charles counts have had 3 to 6 inches fall. I was south I Kirkwood all day and i bet we had 4 rounds of of one inch then it melts then another 1 inch. Very crazy very neat in a way too how thos system functiond
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Post by guyfromhecker on Dec 4, 2018 16:23:26 GMT -6
The hamsters have arrived in in the Evansville Indiana area. This ought to be an interesting drive back this evening
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Post by landscaper on Dec 4, 2018 16:23:31 GMT -6
There is no model that shows any snow out viewing area. I have up hope two days ago.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Dec 4, 2018 16:28:45 GMT -6
Upper levels on the 18Z GFS just look plain weird. Upper level low centers are all farther northwest this run, but the precip more suppressed. Also the upper level low gets cut-off and spins around the Tennessee/southern Ohio Valley for a day or so before finally shearing it's way east. I also have a bone to pick with the simulated satellite and the QPF as the brightest/coolest cloud tops are nowhere the heavier QPF and is displaced well northwest of indicating we should be getting hammered but yet no dice.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Dec 4, 2018 16:33:51 GMT -6
I’m in Edwardsville and the parking lots on campus are getting covered
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Post by bob on Dec 4, 2018 16:38:16 GMT -6
dave just said on radio still concerned about weekend storm for st.louis metro area.
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Post by Tilawn on Dec 4, 2018 16:41:28 GMT -6
Wife measured 3.25” before I arrived back home. It started to melt already by then also and now only 2.5” on the table.
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Post by Tilawn on Dec 4, 2018 16:42:49 GMT -6
When I left Washington earlier the concrete surfaces were already starting to dry and could see spots on the asphalt as well trying to dry up so may not need to salt out in this area.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Dec 4, 2018 16:45:14 GMT -6
S+
Picked up a quick, heavy dusting from this shower.
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Post by landscaper on Dec 4, 2018 16:45:54 GMT -6
They are finally salting all the roads and parking lots throughout St Louis. Again, you should drive cautiously tonight things will likely ice up quickly once it gets dark
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Dec 4, 2018 16:48:22 GMT -6
Upper levels on the 18Z GFS just look plain weird. Upper level low centers are all farther northwest this run, but the precip more suppressed. Also the upper level low gets cut-off and spins around the Tennessee/southern Ohio Valley for a day or so before finally shearing it's way east. I also have a bone to pick with the simulated satellite and the QPF as the brightest/coolest cloud tops are nowhere the heavier QPF and is displaced well northwest of indicating we should be getting hammered but yet no dice. Maybe I'm grasping at straws here but I suspect models are suffering from convective feedback...most of the runs that show the suppressed track have the SLP surrounded by a bullseye of high QPF/convection and that is typically a red flag. |
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Dec 4, 2018 16:49:05 GMT -6
They are finally salting all the roads and parking lots throughout St Louis. Again, you should drive cautiously tonight things will likely ice up quickly once it gets dark Very much agree...perfect setup for black ice formation overnight with light winds and precipitation continuing after dark. |
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Post by mchafin on Dec 4, 2018 16:56:14 GMT -6
Dave mentioned a couple of times that "time is on our side." He also said the snow line looks to be from Cuba -> Farmington -> Sparta -> Mt. Vernon -- "to close for comfort" for him.
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Post by STGOutdoors on Dec 4, 2018 16:58:47 GMT -6
To clarify I'm not giving up yet. But I'm gonna need to see something more encouraging tomorrow.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Dec 4, 2018 17:00:41 GMT -6
Moderate snow here and everything is getting covered quickly. Sidewalks and roads are a sloppy mess. With the sun setting and temps falling things might get dicey on the roads
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Post by STGOutdoors on Dec 4, 2018 17:03:02 GMT -6
Upper levels on the 18Z GFS just look plain weird. Upper level low centers are all farther northwest this run, but the precip more suppressed. Also the upper level low gets cut-off and spins around the Tennessee/southern Ohio Valley for a day or so before finally shearing it's way east. I also have a bone to pick with the simulated satellite and the QPF as the brightest/coolest cloud tops are nowhere the heavier QPF and is displaced well northwest of indicating we should be getting hammered but yet no dice. Maybe I'm grasping at straws here but I suspect models are suffering from convective feedback...most of the runs that show the suppressed track have the SLP surrounded by a bullseye of high QPF/convection and that is typically a red flag. I don't think you're grasping at all. I know the HP is strong but that hiccup you see between when precip is breaking through in SW MO and when the shield stops then slides east again just doesn't make sense. Idk, still have that gut feeling. |
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Post by Frivolousz21 on Dec 4, 2018 17:09:23 GMT -6
It makes sense.
The ejecting trough orientation needs to dramatically "sharpen" up as it slides towards the Missippi valley.
If this doesn't happen nothing will help us.
The wetter runs have had sharper troughs.
With much more consolidated vorticity.
Which amplifies more. Moves slower.
More time for Northern stream interaction.
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Post by Frivolousz21 on Dec 4, 2018 17:18:58 GMT -6
There is definitely enhanced snow going on under the radar beam.
Which is quite impressive.
This is a very impressive airmass
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Post by cozpregon on Dec 4, 2018 17:22:27 GMT -6
I have to say, that this little system is one of the stranger looking things I have ever seen . Add this occurred more at night then I think we would have been in trouble for sure with 3 to 4" totals much more common than dusting Height falls were quite good... actually closing off at 500. Got real good lift to the north of the increasing jet to the south.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Dec 4, 2018 17:25:50 GMT -6
Had to brush around an inch off the car. Still moderate to heavy snow
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Post by pbc12871 on Dec 4, 2018 17:29:55 GMT -6
I guess should I ever get diagnosed with an illness that has an eighty percent chance of survival, I will start making my funeral arrangements.
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Dec 4, 2018 17:33:24 GMT -6
I guess should I ever get diagnosed with an illness that has an eighty percent chance of survival, I will start making my funeral arrangements. Statistics only matter to the individual... |
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Post by pbc12871 on Dec 4, 2018 17:34:30 GMT -6
So does humor.
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Post by ajd446 on Dec 4, 2018 17:37:27 GMT -6
I see Lambert had 1.4. I have 2 on the ground in st.peters.
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Post by Frivolousz21 on Dec 4, 2018 17:40:55 GMT -6
Have an 1.5" on our balcony steps.
About a half inch on the grass
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Post by Snowman99 on Dec 4, 2018 17:46:05 GMT -6
I have 3 inches. Of grass.
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Post by bororug on Dec 4, 2018 17:50:24 GMT -6
Nada here in Desoto. Flurrying currently. That’s about it.
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Dec 4, 2018 17:50:56 GMT -6
Well... if I measure on my deck table and railing... I have a solid 1.5" here in chesterfield. If I look at the grass... almost nothing. Assuming it all melted... I'm going with 1.5" yes i worked from home today.....there was abt an inch on the ground but it melted during the late morning once the snow stopped. then when the snow started up again it replaced it with what seems to be just under an inch. |
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Dec 4, 2018 17:57:01 GMT -6
I have 3 inches. Of grass. This made me laugh. |
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