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Post by STGOutdoors on Dec 13, 2020 12:03:49 GMT -6
I agree with the 2nd part of this, but Amarillo gets more snow than STL (and KC).
Location, location, location.
(OKC only gets about 8"/yr, so I also see your point about across the state of OK and into AR.)
Also...elevation, elevation, elevation! Our location being in a river valley at low elevation does us no favors. You’re forgetting about a certain mountain peak that we have here locally. And I ain’t talkin’ about Taum Sauk.
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Post by STGOutdoors on Dec 13, 2020 12:07:29 GMT -6
It’s trying to push north but I suspect most of that is virga. Damn what a tease.
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Post by weatherj on Dec 13, 2020 12:08:06 GMT -6
Is it me or does this December seem a lot like December 2012? Overall near to just above normal temps and snow hard to come by. That is until December 28th of that year.
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Dec 13, 2020 12:28:37 GMT -6
I have a friend who has a horse ranch about a mile west of Enid, OK. She says they have a decent amount of snow...the most in several years. I see they are predicted for more snow on Tuesday. This really is good news, I think. When a long pattern gets broken in a favorable source region for storms in our area, then I think in due time, we will become the beneficiary for that.
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Post by STGOutdoors on Dec 13, 2020 12:49:59 GMT -6
Well it’s snowing in Lebanon MO at the very northern fringe so maybe I’ll get a little bit.
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Post by STGOutdoors on Dec 13, 2020 12:50:44 GMT -6
Anything reaching the ground in Ironton?
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Post by STGOutdoors on Dec 13, 2020 13:03:00 GMT -6
It isn't a bad thing that someone in the middle of the country is getting snow this winter so far. And our current weather beats the last few years of 60's, sunshine, and green grass. The cold/cool and cloudy stuff at least makes it feel like the hollidays. But yea I'm still not happy about the track of this one.
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Dec 13, 2020 13:06:20 GMT -6
Ggem, gfs, and euro all have a storm approaching in the 23rd-25th range.
At least there is a chance
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Post by snowday_lover on Dec 13, 2020 13:06:53 GMT -6
Anything reaching the ground in Ironton? Nope, not yet.
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Post by showtime - Marissa on Dec 13, 2020 13:34:05 GMT -6
Literally looks like it is hitting a wall
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Post by demerson- Fletcher MO on Dec 13, 2020 13:53:10 GMT -6
Ya I kinda thought we may at least see some flurries today but that’s not looking likely at this point.
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Post by Chris Higgins on Dec 13, 2020 15:17:17 GMT -6
That period is very close to the "hot spot" I identified in my post a few days ago from previous similar years
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Post by amstilost on Dec 13, 2020 16:11:00 GMT -6
Sitting here watching the full Conus radar in high resolution and saying to myself...WTH. Please, (I know you will) point me out if I am wrong. Normally, I would be watching this (thinking it will move NE over us) and be looking for convection along the Gulf Coast that might rob us of potential moisture transport northward. Looking at this radar I see a line of thunderstorms just east of Houston stretching NE through LA into central MS. Not only does it NOT appear to be hindering moisture transport north, look at the plume of developing showers/storms coming across the Red River in NE TX. Now continue looking north and watch the area over Fort Smith, AR and E OK get enchanced precip into the colder air. Does anything EVER work out like that for us??? Rant over. I really would prefer to not see "alot" of snow for Christmas Eve/Christmas Day for my own travel reasons.
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Post by amstilost on Dec 13, 2020 16:13:39 GMT -6
Wow, the 18z NAM really hates us for the Tue/Wed system.
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Post by Frivolousz21 on Dec 13, 2020 16:58:05 GMT -6
I wouldn't get to discouraged.
It's only December 13th.
I am guessing 75% of our snow falls after Christmas.
And that probably skews towards 85-90% many years that don't feature an anomolous snow event pre-Christmas.
We have been spoiled by some amazing November's starting back in 2014 onwards.
IIRC we have had 3 or 4 since then with accumulating snow.
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Post by Steven Penrod- HLEW on Dec 13, 2020 17:12:36 GMT -6
Something popping up on RadarScope just north of the county. Looks like right on the river. Not sure what it is.
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Post by WEAXWATCHER on Dec 13, 2020 17:20:41 GMT -6
Something popping up on RadarScope just north of the county. Looks like right on the river. Not sure what it is. Birds probably.
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Post by showtime - Marissa on Dec 13, 2020 18:38:36 GMT -6
Any snow falling to the south ?
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Post by Snowman99 on Dec 13, 2020 18:40:28 GMT -6
18z euro has 15-20 inches again in NY area. Losers.
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Post by snowday_lover on Dec 13, 2020 18:43:35 GMT -6
Any snow falling to the south ? A very light snow finally falling here in Ironton. It just started about 7 min ago
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Post by STGOutdoors on Dec 13, 2020 18:54:23 GMT -6
Virga in pville.
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Post by showtime - Marissa on Dec 13, 2020 19:10:18 GMT -6
That’s a shame..... the returns looked pretty decent over you
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Post by weatherman222 on Dec 13, 2020 19:13:31 GMT -6
Light snow in Fredericktown. Basically a flurry.
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Post by unclesam6 on Dec 13, 2020 19:23:36 GMT -6
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Post by STGOutdoors on Dec 13, 2020 19:33:43 GMT -6
That’s a shame..... the returns looked pretty decent over you Sure is. This is why I thought I had a shot at an inch or so. It’s sprinkling now.
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Post by cozpregon on Dec 13, 2020 19:42:59 GMT -6
Yep- lapse rate virtually zero in the snow growth zone- can’t imagine anything reaching the ground with that dry air
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Post by unclesam6 on Dec 13, 2020 20:26:33 GMT -6
damn, we nearly saturate the column on the 00z nam.
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Post by landscaper on Dec 13, 2020 20:35:23 GMT -6
Are you talking about the Tuesday night
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Post by ndolan387 on Dec 13, 2020 20:47:24 GMT -6
damn, we nearly saturate the column on the 00z nam. Yes it's close for Tues/Wed
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Post by unclesam6 on Dec 13, 2020 20:59:34 GMT -6
Are you talking about the Tuesday night yes, all the problems have been at h85 and the mid-level low manages to bolster up just enough to pull in some moisture i.imgur.com/w41lVXc.png
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