giarC71
Wishcaster
Posts: 220
Snowfall Events: Blizzard of'82 I became addicted to weather
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Post by giarC71 on Jan 31, 2022 19:02:08 GMT -6
Did you see his timeline with amounts?
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Post by Chris Higgins on Jan 31, 2022 19:04:19 GMT -6
I hear the Dome is open
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Post by Chris Higgins on Jan 31, 2022 19:05:40 GMT -6
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Post by NewTownWeather on Jan 31, 2022 19:16:21 GMT -6
Wonder what they'll do with the piles of snow in developed areas like downtown STL and downtown Clayton. In 1982 the National Guard dumped it in the Mississippi. But I think that's prohibited for environmental reasons now. Wonder if they can dump it in an empty lot or whether that's not permitted, either. I was in Columbia MO for the original Groundhog Day blizzard, I literally left Saint Louis and went to stay with a friend in Columbia once it became obvious that Saint Louis was going to miss the snow. Snow removal there just piled it along the roadways (there were literally what felt like walls of snow along many roads) and in any open lots they could find. I remember absolutely huge snow piles that literally were still there in some form well into June. Some of the biggest were collected at the mall parking lot because of all the extra space there. Obviously Columbia is nowhere near as big as Saint Louis but they are going to have to pile it all somewhere in the city 🤷🏻‍♂️.
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Post by Snowman99 on Jan 31, 2022 19:26:28 GMT -6
Euro Ensembles from 18z. Continues the snowfall increase
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Post by landscaper on Jan 31, 2022 19:28:47 GMT -6
Nice
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Post by Snowman99 on Jan 31, 2022 19:29:33 GMT -6
SREF mean is at about right at 7"
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Post by The Commish- Lake St. Louis on Jan 31, 2022 19:30:25 GMT -6
Wow, seeing the national weather service’s “zone of uncertainty” will raise some eyebrows. They have snow range from 4-11”. I hope that doesn’t get some people a bit reluctant to take the storm seriously. Never seen a range like that so close to the event.
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Post by ndolan387 on Jan 31, 2022 19:35:48 GMT -6
I'm just going to assume it was a young or fairly inexperienced forecaster in charge...and leave it at that. I'm hoping our guy Glass takes the helm tonight or tomorrow. I agree! Blowing snow is going to be an issue. That forecast discussion was signed MRM. I assume it wasn't Kevin D, but maybe a newbie.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Jan 31, 2022 19:38:18 GMT -6
18z euro control run has 12-15” in the metro on the 10:1 map
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Post by ElKay23 - Columbia, IL on Jan 31, 2022 19:40:27 GMT -6
Wow, seeing the national weather service’s “zone of uncertainty” will raise some eyebrows. They have snow range from 4-11”. I hope that doesn’t get some people a bit reluctant to take the storm seriously. Never seen a range like that so close to the event. From the comments on their Facebook post, you’re concerns are well founded.
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Post by landscaper on Jan 31, 2022 19:41:08 GMT -6
The 0z HRRR is a little warmer through the day on Wednesday less snow than it’s 18z run
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mccarthb
Junior Forecaster
O'Fallon, MO - Outer Road near border of Dardenne Prarie
Posts: 443
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Post by mccarthb on Jan 31, 2022 19:43:50 GMT -6
All at Lambert I’m assuming. The spot that receives the least amount of snow for every metro storm lol.
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Post by Chris Higgins on Jan 31, 2022 19:45:13 GMT -6
Wow, seeing the national weather service’s “zone of uncertainty” will raise some eyebrows. They have snow range from 4-11”. I hope that doesn’t get some people a bit reluctant to take the storm seriously. Never seen a range like that so close to the event. GHD 1.0 my forecast was 3 to 11 across the metro. Low end in metro east... high end metro west. It's hard to capture the range when it is so big across a small area.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Jan 31, 2022 19:45:15 GMT -6
00z NBM
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Post by Snowman99 on Jan 31, 2022 19:49:19 GMT -6
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Post by Snowman99 on Jan 31, 2022 19:50:20 GMT -6
hmm..wxbells is higher
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Jan 31, 2022 19:51:28 GMT -6
Can you tilt that band at more of a 45* angle please
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Post by landscaper on Jan 31, 2022 19:52:29 GMT -6
I like snow mans better…
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Jan 31, 2022 20:07:31 GMT -6
I hear the Dome is open There's an RV show there next weekend. Parking the RV's next to mountains of snow would add an element of authenticity to the camping scenarios.
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Jan 31, 2022 20:12:51 GMT -6
All at Lambert I’m assuming. The spot that receives the least amount of snow for every metro storm lol. Any dates prior to 1930 or so wouldn't be Lambert since Lambert didn't exist prior to then.
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Post by birddog on Jan 31, 2022 20:20:11 GMT -6
Wonder what they'll do with the piles of snow in developed areas like downtown STL and downtown Clayton. In 1982 the National Guard dumped it in the Mississippi. But I think that's prohibited for environmental reasons now. Wonder if they can dump it in an empty lot or whether that's not permitted, either. I was in Columbia MO for the original Groundhog Day blizzard, I literally left Saint Louis and went to stay with a friend in Columbia once it became obvious that Saint Louis was going to miss the snow. Snow removal there just piled it along the roadways (there were literally what felt like walls of snow along many roads) and in any open lots they could find. I remember absolutely huge snow piles that literally were still there in some form well into June. Some of the biggest were collected at the mall parking lot because of all the extra space there. Obviously Columbia is nowhere near as big as Saint Louis but they are going to have to pile it all somewhere in the city 🤷🏻‍♂️. Not sure how STL does it, but my friend works for the city of Cedar Falls Iowa. They clean up plowed snow starting overnight and have several large containment dump sites. The snow is left to melt and when it is gone all residual is sucked up and hauled away as hazardous waste.
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Post by The Commish- Lake St. Louis on Jan 31, 2022 20:21:04 GMT -6
Wow, seeing the national weather service’s “zone of uncertainty” will raise some eyebrows. They have snow range from 4-11”. I hope that doesn’t get some people a bit reluctant to take the storm seriously. Never seen a range like that so close to the event. GHD 1.0 my forecast was 3 to 11 across the metro. Low end in metro east... high end metro west. It's hard to capture the range when it is so big across a small area. Great explanation. I just though it made more sense to stick with the impact meter to emphasize the severity of the storm but that is why you all get paid the big bucks
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Post by Chris Higgins on Jan 31, 2022 20:21:08 GMT -6
The 00z NAM is ever so slightly colder at 15z Wednesday and shows an incredible burst of heavy sleet and snow right over the metro between 6am and 10am. A deep, iothermal layer hugging the freeze line with a surface temp in the mid 20s... that will be brutally heavy snow... as evidence by the quick 2-4 inches it prints out over metro STL. If that happens... wow...
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Post by Chris Higgins on Jan 31, 2022 20:22:21 GMT -6
GHD 1.0 my forecast was 3 to 11 across the metro. Low end in metro east... high end metro west. It's hard to capture the range when it is so big across a small area. Great explanation. I just though it made more sense to stick with the impact meter to emphasize the severity of the storm but that is why you all get paid the big bucks This forecast for the metro doesn't seem to be that tight at the moment... thanks in part to phase 2 that should get MOST (but not all) plenty of snow to be happy with.
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Post by Lovableweatherguy TROY,MO on Jan 31, 2022 20:26:29 GMT -6
Didn't we have a way of keeping track of everyone's location on here? Thought there was a main page or site we were using?Ă·
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Post by Snowman99 on Jan 31, 2022 20:36:29 GMT -6
Where the hell is everyone? lol
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Post by WEAXWATCHER on Jan 31, 2022 20:36:49 GMT -6
Bowling
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Post by yypc on Jan 31, 2022 20:37:34 GMT -6
Per NWS STL there is a good chance the watch gets upgraded to a warning overnight.
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Post by landscaper on Jan 31, 2022 20:38:54 GMT -6
NAM looks awesome probably 12-16” for the metro
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