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Post by guyfromhecker on Dec 4, 2018 7:04:24 GMT -6
Solid 1/2 inch here in Sparta
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Post by guyfromhecker on Dec 3, 2018 9:41:17 GMT -6
I'm afraid if nothing comes out of this weekend, then we're going to be waiting for a while, possibly until January for decent snow. Looks like a warm up coming for sure. It can snow with above normal temps, it's just harder. Hope this thing heads north, but not looking good. I have as much faith in the potential warm up as I do, or did, for the potential storm this weekend.
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Post by guyfromhecker on Dec 1, 2018 21:59:17 GMT -6
Wow! That is less than 1/2 mile from our resort at Long Creek. I have not gone that far down 86 since we went to Dogwood Canyon 10 years ago Long Creek marina dock b and c (Bass Pro) Johnny probably wanted to update that anyway ;-) We were at The Cliffs at Long Creek last weekend.
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Post by guyfromhecker on Dec 1, 2018 16:46:50 GMT -6
To view, go into tornado warning thread. Saw it. Quite impressive LP
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Post by guyfromhecker on Dec 1, 2018 16:32:46 GMT -6
According to Google numerous issues on highways in Litchfield area.
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Post by guyfromhecker on Dec 1, 2018 14:28:40 GMT -6
Doesn't include the immediate metro. Yet
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Post by guyfromhecker on Dec 1, 2018 13:36:02 GMT -6
Wow! That is less than 1/2 mile from our resort at Long Creek. I have not gone that far down 86 since we went to Dogwood Canyon 10 years ago
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Post by guyfromhecker on Dec 1, 2018 11:41:55 GMT -6
Table rock lake before and after this down by 86 bridge and big ceder lodge from.last night storm What structure is that?
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 30, 2018 14:07:16 GMT -6
Saw a pic on fb of a school floor that had a crack in it
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 28, 2018 17:36:38 GMT -6
I love the fact that you used average, but please stay away from normal. I would bet there are perhaps three or four average days per decade. That might even be stretching it. There is nothing normal about something that rarely occurs The scientifically correct term is... in fact...NORMAL...and not average...this according the the World Meteorological Organization (WMO). www.wmo.int/pages/prog/wcp/wcdmp/GCDS_1.phpAverages: The mean of monthly values of climatological data (which may be monthly means or totals) over any specified period of time (no specific definition). Period averages: Averages of climatological data computed for any period of at least ten years starting on 1 January of a year ending with the digit 1 (Technical Regulations). Normals: Period averages computed for a uniform and relatively long period comprising at least three consecutive ten-year periods (Technical Regulations). Climatological standard normals: Averages of climatological data computed for the following consecutive periods of 30 years: 1 January 1981 to 31 December 2010, 1 January 1991 to 31 December 2020, etc. (Technical Regulations). Leave it to the Nerds to redefine a word. I could understand a range of temperature being considered normal for a particular day, but not a specific temperature. Just my opinion.
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 28, 2018 17:06:47 GMT -6
There have been 20 out of the 27 days in November that have been below avg. The majority of those were well below avg. KSTL is running -8.6* below normal and today's departure has not been figured in yet. It will warm up by Friday to a bit abv avg, but we should still hold on to the -8* territory. It's a good thing Saturday is December 1st, if the slower cold front verifies it could get well into the 60's. I love the fact that you used average, but please stay away from normal. I would bet there are perhaps three or four average days per decade. That might even be stretching it. There is nothing normal about something that rarely occurs
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 21, 2018 20:27:23 GMT -6
Advisories don't trip notifiers Every weather app or weather radio Ive had will go off for a winter weather advisory Woah, just checked my phone and found I had notifications turned off for my app. Maybe I would have gotten one two weeks ago
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 21, 2018 19:30:32 GMT -6
the root of my opinion....way too much dependence on others telling ppl that driving is not a good idea. in your case you were already driving and theres really not anything you can do, right? so would your behavior been any different if you had a snow squall warning? and if so, how? I'd tend to agree with this reasoning...they hit so quickly there's little warning either way. Honestly an advisory with squall wording is sufficient and probably better in this part of the country where showers/squalls tend to be fairly widespread and affect a relatively large area unlike LES bands which may only cover half a county and stay nearly stationary. Advisories don't trip notifiers
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 21, 2018 17:38:54 GMT -6
the root of my opinion....way too much dependence on others telling ppl that driving is not a good idea. in your case you were already driving and theres really not anything you can do, right? so would your behavior been any different if you had a snow squall warning? and if so, how? Pretty simple. If I did know there was a warning I would have stopped immediately, check the radar on my phone, assess the situation, and decide what to do. If that means go to the nearest exit and wait it out that's what I'd do. It's such a brief event that it's worth missing and not getting caught up in it. It's not like I'm going to cancel a trip over a 5 minute Squall but I'd like to be appraised of the situation. I actually believe this one lasted more than five minutes because I was in it for longer than 5 minutes and I was moving in the opposite direction. The ridiculously intense stuff was fairly brief though. That was the scary part.
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 21, 2018 17:18:54 GMT -6
the only blizzard warning that i recall turned into a sleet event at my house but just northwest of me, they might have met the 3 hour criteria of 35 mph winds. i dont know if we will ever have a blizzard warning again. ive had 3...two of them in rural southeast missouri.so given that rarity, i personally think they shld take that out of their suite of products as well here at st louis. i dont think the masses really understand all the various warnings so fewer is simpler. stick to winterstorm warnings. as far as snow squalls, i dont think theres justification in this part of the country to introduce a new product. ppl by lake erie understand it. a 5 minute blizzard that we see with the passage of artic fronts typically doesnt qualify. maybe last week does. i didnt witness it. i witnessed one last year. its too infrequent around here to keep educating the public. just my 2 cents worth. i know im in the minority. I have witnessed three of them. All three of them definitely did a number on traffic. I especially think that people driving on Interstate should be aware and warned. I was only on the interstate for one of them and it was one of the hairiest driving experiences I've ever had. I'm just glad the ended when it did. And I drive a lot in the snow. The crazy thing about this is I contacted the Weather Service three different times asking them why they didn't come up for something different because this didn't meet criteria for any warning. I called Paducah back in 95. I have emailed the National Weather Service Office in St Louis twice in the last 10 years. Same subject.
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 21, 2018 16:03:04 GMT -6
Just because we rarely meet the criteria doesn't mean we never qualify. We have to have something for those situations. Right now they barely warrant a special weather statement.
Think about it. By the logic of it rarely happening here that means we should never have a blizzard warning even if it was warranted. Lord knows we have more of these than we have actual blizzards. I can't remember the last real blizzard we had here.
In my mind that event on the 9th fit perfectly. Would have been nice to get a tone alert on my phone for that one as I was driving down 44.
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 16, 2018 17:52:04 GMT -6
What the heck was rotating over st. Clair County yesterday at 5:30 a.m.? With that little snow batch there was definite rotation. The stuff in the eastern part of the county was moving North and the stuff in the western part of the county was moving south Pretty sure that was the 850mb low. I had no idea it was that far west. Wow
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 16, 2018 16:45:02 GMT -6
What the heck was rotating over st. Clair County yesterday at 5:30 a.m.? With that little snow batch there was definite rotation. The stuff in the eastern part of the county was moving North and the stuff in the western part of the county was moving south
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 16, 2018 11:51:58 GMT -6
Really no point in an upgrade when the storm is in progress and the snow already piling up...IMO. Bingo. Now... I think they could have downgraded or cancelled warnings east of STL earlier than they did...but there was still concern about new development closer to the 500 and 850 circ center...which was underway through 6AM..and then sort of collapsed as the low began drifing east and more dry air wrapped around the center. What was going on in St Clair and Monroe County just before 6 a.m.? There was a definite circulation there. And I was under moderate to heavy snow for a little bit.
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 16, 2018 7:58:48 GMT -6
It seems likely he means December-February. This last storm was a winter subsidy. He also had that written and made public before Thursday Yes, but his forecast is for December thru February. Forget everything that happens in November
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 15, 2018 17:47:51 GMT -6
Got some fog developing over here and rural Washington County amongst the snow here
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 15, 2018 13:16:23 GMT -6
I'm in heavy snow again in Evansville Indiana
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 15, 2018 13:01:26 GMT -6
My wife works for an attorney who lives in St Louis city. He didn't come into work today and he reported 10 in at his house
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 15, 2018 10:07:35 GMT -6
Now there might be some possible Thunder in the metro-east
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 15, 2018 8:11:11 GMT -6
Another classic looking storm on the national radar.
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 15, 2018 7:05:46 GMT -6
Downtown St Louis looks like it's under a persistent band of heavy snow. Wouldn't be surprised to see them go over 10 in if they had seven at the park already
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 15, 2018 5:11:05 GMT -6
4 inches
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 14, 2018 21:04:18 GMT -6
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 14, 2018 19:11:27 GMT -6
Mostly grapule
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 14, 2018 19:08:32 GMT -6
Roads are covering already. I'd say moderate grapule snow mix in Red Bud
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