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Post by ndolan387 on Mar 20, 2020 22:03:18 GMT -6
Also keeping in mind that the NAM has displayed a warm bias as of late...but the cooler mid-levels and good lift make me think snow could break out until diurnal warming and WAA takes over. Yeah up in Brighton, 850mb temps will be colder so you will have more snow time! We have a chance here for an hour or two of WAA snow, but it looks more borderline across the immediate metro.. Maybe it will trend colder.
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Post by ndolan387 on Mar 20, 2020 22:13:11 GMT -6
The 18z NAM looks decent at 500mb for early Sun. A nice little neg tilt ripple to the west of us as we are in the region where cyclonic vorticity is being advected toward. The big issue is 850mb temps aren't cold enough. Still think we will see some some snowflakes Sun morning which I'll take before it changes over to all rain. It's going to be close...especially up here. This kind of caught me by surprise but I think we could see some minor accums. up this way before it turns over...but that will be dependent on the timing. It looks good in the mid-levels with good isentropic ascent and large scale lift/DPVA...and definetely cold enough at 700mb unlike the last system. NAM also brings down an area of status off the lakes which keeps overnight temps near the river valley up around freezing...hopefully that's the case. What model website do you use for isentropic features? I believe Dr. Graves has potential temperature features (290-310 K) on the CIPS model guidance. I don't look at constant potential temperature, density surface features, but I should more. For Sun morning, 850mb and 700mb winds are southerly showing clear WAA.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Mar 21, 2020 6:09:13 GMT -6
It's going to be close...especially up here. This kind of caught me by surprise but I think we could see some minor accums. up this way before it turns over...but that will be dependent on the timing. It looks good in the mid-levels with good isentropic ascent and large scale lift/DPVA...and definetely cold enough at 700mb unlike the last system. NAM also brings down an area of status off the lakes which keeps overnight temps near the river valley up around freezing...hopefully that's the case. What model website do you use for isentropic features? I believe Dr. Graves has potential temperature features (290-310 K) on the CIPS model guidance. I don't look at constant potential temperature, density surface features, but I should more. For Sun morning, 850mb and 700mb winds are southerly showing clear WAA. www.wxcaster.com/isentropic.htm
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Post by demerson- Fletcher MO on Mar 21, 2020 8:18:34 GMT -6
Managed to stay just above freezing last night thankfully.
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Post by ndolan387 on Mar 21, 2020 8:24:19 GMT -6
What model website do you use for isentropic features? I believe Dr. Graves has potential temperature features (290-310 K) on the CIPS model guidance. I don't look at constant potential temperature, density surface features, but I should more. For Sun morning, 850mb and 700mb winds are southerly showing clear WAA. www.wxcaster.com/isentropic.htmCool, thanks!
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Post by bdgwx on Mar 21, 2020 8:35:14 GMT -6
The Tomer Burg site has isentropic charts or at least it did. Check back periodically to see when he gets his new site up and running. Tropical Tidbits has the 300K and 290K levels in the Upper Dynamics section. AWIPS II is by far the best tool to use for this among other things. However, it's very difficult to install, learn, and acquire data for.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Mar 21, 2020 8:56:50 GMT -6
Managed to stay just above freezing last night thankfully. Stratus and wind definitely prevented a hard freeze with 850mb temps around -8*C.
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Mar 21, 2020 9:33:17 GMT -6
The sunshine should improve everyone's mood a bit.
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Post by Snowman99 on Mar 21, 2020 9:42:04 GMT -6
The sunshine should improve everyone's mood a bit. followed by clouds and rain tomorrow, and several more days next week. Meh
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Post by Steven Penrod- HLEW on Mar 21, 2020 10:03:28 GMT -6
Flurries in Manchester
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Mar 21, 2020 10:32:04 GMT -6
The sunshine should improve everyone's mood a bit. followed by clouds and rain tomorrow, and several more days next week. Meh Take what you can get and enjoy it while we have it.
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Post by Labrat-O'Fallon IL on Mar 21, 2020 10:38:31 GMT -6
In celebrity news Kenny Rodgers passed away. Didn't realize he was 81.
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Post by Chris Higgins on Mar 21, 2020 10:46:52 GMT -6
Breaking now... appears STL County and City are issuing mandatory stay at home orders starting Monday. More to come.
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Post by mosue56 on Mar 21, 2020 10:56:51 GMT -6
My snowbirds were in my backyard tree! Haven’t Seen them all winter! It’s a sign! 🥴
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Post by Tilawn on Mar 21, 2020 11:41:17 GMT -6
/?d=n Here is what municipalities are having to deal with, with your flushable wipes.
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Post by dschreib on Mar 21, 2020 11:42:02 GMT -6
Breaking now... appears STL County and City are issuing mandatory stay at home orders starting Monday. More to come. If they're as liberal as the IL ones, you can pretty much do a lot of the things you were doing before. We'll see.
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Mar 21, 2020 11:45:48 GMT -6
In celebrity news Kenny Rodgers passed away. Didn't realize he was 81. He's had Alzheimer's and had deteriorating health for a number of years
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Post by weatherman222 on Mar 21, 2020 13:07:01 GMT -6
Breaking now... appears STL County and City are issuing mandatory stay at home orders starting Monday. More to come. What a tough decision for a community leaders to make but it seems necessary. As council member in my city we are all closely watching how the larger cities manage Covid-19. This is such uncharted territory.
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Post by maddogchief on Mar 21, 2020 15:58:12 GMT -6
/?d=n Here is what municipalities are having to deal with, with your flushable wipes. I appreciate the photo. At this point they are emergency use only in the event that everywhere is still out of TP in a few weeks.
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Post by unclesam6 on Mar 21, 2020 16:01:44 GMT -6
/?d=n Here is what municipalities are having to deal with, with your flushable wipes. I appreciate the photo. At this point they are emergency use only in the event that everywhere is still out of TP in a few weeks. Better idea to just throw them in the trash.
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Post by Chris Higgins on Mar 21, 2020 16:31:51 GMT -6
GROSSSSS....
In other news... prepping the home office for live weather should the decision be made tongo that way! Weather in my PJs every morning at 4am!
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Post by demerson- Fletcher MO on Mar 21, 2020 17:09:08 GMT -6
Starting next week they are making us work 10 hour shifts. So ya 10 hour shifts with 80+ people in a smallish office. How are we supposed to not catch this thing?
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Mar 21, 2020 17:15:09 GMT -6
GROSSSSS.... In other news... prepping the home office for live weather should the decision be made tongo that way! Weather in my PJs every morning at 4am! Remember Mike Bush doing sports early in the morning on the radio from his home? ♫Mike Bush sports time...sports in his shorts.♫ Though I don't recommend doing that on TV
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Post by Snowman99 on Mar 21, 2020 18:02:58 GMT -6
Starting next week they are making us work 10 hour shifts. So ya 10 hour shifts with 80+ people in a smallish office. How are we supposed to not catch this thing? You should be the one worried about giving it to others, lol.
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Post by Snowman99 on Mar 21, 2020 18:30:08 GMT -6
this thread has gone down the crapper....
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Post by demerson- Fletcher MO on Mar 21, 2020 18:46:39 GMT -6
Ya well I tried to get tested. Already used 3 days of sick time so I’m pretty much tapped out on that for now. No fever all day today so that’s a good sign I guess.
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Post by demerson- Fletcher MO on Mar 21, 2020 18:58:05 GMT -6
I do want to say that I love my job and am grateful to have it. The testing situation and the employers requiring a positive test to call in sick is just frustrating to see and hear.
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Post by Snowman99 on Mar 21, 2020 19:06:06 GMT -6
yep, I'm not blaming you at all. The whole testing thing is a joke. We are STILL so far behind where we should be it's pathetic.
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Post by demerson- Fletcher MO on Mar 21, 2020 19:08:00 GMT -6
Dave still calling for possible hamsters tomorrow morning. How’s that looking?
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Mar 21, 2020 20:04:58 GMT -6
Dave still calling for possible hamsters tomorrow morning. How’s that looking? 00z nam supports that
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