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Post by maddogchief on Apr 8, 2020 8:17:39 GMT -6
I wonder if Snowman is able to walk in his backyard yet?
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Post by STGOutdoors on Apr 8, 2020 8:38:03 GMT -6
Could definitely see some hailers down my way this evening.
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Post by scmhack on Apr 8, 2020 8:41:26 GMT -6
I wonder if Snowman is able to walk in his backyard yet? Nope. That last blizzard has him snowed in still
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Post by Chris Higgins on Apr 8, 2020 8:44:52 GMT -6
Two big stories today will be temperatures... surging back into the 80s...and then the possibility of severe storms this evening. For highs... I boosted the forecast to 86. With a fast start and limited pre-frontal clouds that may not be warm enough. The only thing keeping me from going warmer is the rather weak low level flow out of the Ozarks. It is not a strong downslope wind... so I'm going to hold it at 86...but I would not be surprised if it gets a little warmer. Severe weather.... I think SPC is too far west with the Enhanced along I-70. The initiation of storms may bring the early stages of severe into metro STL... but the "bigger" stuff will not come together until it passes just east of STL. I think Illinois and southeast Missouri have the greatest risk of seeing the large hail and damaging winds. There is a lot of CAPE aloft, a healthy elevated mixed layer (EML) and very steep mid-level lapse rates. In addition, low level lapse rates are quite impressive beneath the LCL...which will be running high thanks to deep mixing. Within this airmass will be favorable bulk shear of 40+ kts from the west/northwest. All of this points toward severe storm potential developing rapidly after 5pm in the frontal convergence zone. Initial storms may be discreet... but given the potential for strong downburst winds fueled by steep lapse rates and big Td depression in the sub cloud layer...I suspect we end up with a rapid evolution to QLCS over southern Illinois and southeast Missouri. The tornado threat may increase closer to the Ohio River with QLCS type tornado structures most likely.
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Post by Snowman99 on Apr 8, 2020 8:47:59 GMT -6
I wonder if Snowman is able to walk in his backyard yet? For the last several days actually! It's actually dried out a fair amount. Still some muddy areas but nothing swampy like it was for literally many months.
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Post by scmhack on Apr 8, 2020 8:52:24 GMT -6
I wonder if Snowman is able to walk in his backyard yet? For the last several days actually! It's actually dried out a fair amount. Still some muddy areas but nothing swampy like it was for literally many months. Is it something you can dirt fill and route drainage under or is it just a natural valley for drainage?
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Post by maddogchief on Apr 8, 2020 9:17:41 GMT -6
I wonder if Snowman is able to walk in his backyard yet? For the last several days actually! It's actually dried out a fair amount. Still some muddy areas but nothing swampy like it was for literally many months. There goes your budding mosquito breeding business.
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Post by Snowman99 on Apr 8, 2020 9:29:47 GMT -6
For the last several days actually! It's actually dried out a fair amount. Still some muddy areas but nothing swampy like it was for literally many months. Is it something you can dirt fill and route drainage under or is it just a natural valley for drainage? Live "down in a hole" lol. Don't think dirt fill is gonna help. It's just been worse because of all the rin we've had the last couple of years.
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Post by scmhack on Apr 8, 2020 9:43:39 GMT -6
Is it something you can dirt fill and route drainage under or is it just a natural valley for drainage? Live "down in a hole" lol. Don't think dirt fill is gonna help. It's just been worse because of all the rin we've had the last couple of years. www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v67LpSz6CkBut Down in a Hole is off Dirt!
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Post by WEAXWATCHER on Apr 8, 2020 9:44:35 GMT -6
Chris... I see a new shirt design here... related to severe weather this time. Thank you for the update!
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Apr 8, 2020 10:23:33 GMT -6
Lots of digital snow showing up on the models next week
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Apr 8, 2020 10:30:35 GMT -6
Short range models aren’t mixing us out as much as they were last night. Some of the runs last night had LCLs up around 700mb
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Post by jeepers on Apr 8, 2020 10:35:05 GMT -6
83 degrees already. AC is on.
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Post by toddatfarmington on Apr 8, 2020 10:35:07 GMT -6
A little surprised to see the NWS hosting a conference call for today’s event
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Apr 8, 2020 10:47:17 GMT -6
Not much change with the 11:30 SPC update
Looks like they did pull the hatched wind probability further west to include the eastern metro
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Post by Snowman99 on Apr 8, 2020 10:58:07 GMT -6
it's hot. Too hot
The next week will be cold. too cold.
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Apr 8, 2020 10:59:27 GMT -6
83 degrees already. AC is on. Had to turn ours on last evening. Wouldn't have been able to sleep last night.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Apr 8, 2020 12:04:01 GMT -6
Dewpoints have definitely mixed out a bit, especially across central IL...thinking that will limit the tornado threat overall, but increase the downburst wind potential. And the potential for very large(2"+) hail exists with discrete, rotating supercells given the very steep mid-level lapse rates and relatively low wetbulb zero. Definitely need to watch things closely this afternoon and evening...4-8pm or so from NW to SE. Storms look to fire just W/NW of the metro and quickly sweep E/SE.
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Post by WEAXWATCHER on Apr 8, 2020 12:07:39 GMT -6
Feels dry here. Was quite moist this morning. Finally closed all the windows and turned on the AC... but only upstairs. Downstairs is cool enough.
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Post by toddatfarmington on Apr 8, 2020 12:11:05 GMT -6
Not much to report from NWS conference call, it was brief due to the ongoing stress on emergency services. Refer to the graphics on the web site. Fairly high confidence forecast, more discrete and large hail producers developing over northern MO/IL around 2-3 pm. Storms arrive in the metro area between 5-8 pm, should be congealing into more of a line by arrival or just south of the metro where the threat begins shifting to more of a damaging wind vs hail threat. Storms should clear the forecast area by 9-10 pm. Classified primary threat as hail followed by damaging winds, with secondary threat of a tornado or two possible.
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Post by toddatfarmington on Apr 8, 2020 12:12:28 GMT -6
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Post by amstilost on Apr 8, 2020 12:38:02 GMT -6
Tip of the hat to BWG....this is a new thermo and I sit at 93* in the shade on front porch. The porch gets morning sun and the thermo is not accurate at that time, but It sure feels like 93* woring in the garden. Edit: Now I will look at NWS temp readings. Edit, Edit:No way it's only 83* in De Soto? ?
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Apr 8, 2020 12:42:34 GMT -6
Good News, Covid 19 maybe peaking now until Saturday than should see a pull back in new cases and deaths. Looks like we'll be able to open up by Mid-May in time for my New Mexico Trip which apparently hasn't been cancelled to my knowledge. My uncle in in charge of the tickets. Models call for 60-61K deaths by August and infection rates to drop significantly very soon. Too soon to celebrate but the light is getting closer at the end of the tunnel.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Apr 8, 2020 12:44:48 GMT -6
Tip of the hat to BWG....this is a new thermo and I sit at 93* in the shade on front porch. The porch gets morning sun and the thermo is not accurate at that time, but It sure feels like 93* woring in the garden. Edit: Now I will look at NWS temp readings. Edit, Edit:No way it's only 83* in De Soto? ? Yeah I see your weather station on underground's Wundermap. Your station is a sore thumb for sure. Most in the mid 80s with an upper 80 here and there. Still another hour or 2 till max temp though, so still could get to 88 to 90 before it's all said and done.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Apr 8, 2020 12:47:14 GMT -6
On closer zoom more 90* readings are popping up in your area, so there could be some localized heating enhancement going on there. Most stations are between 85 and 88 now around the metro. Next hour should see Lambert in the 86 to 88* range.
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Post by amstilost on Apr 8, 2020 12:47:27 GMT -6
Weatherbug has me at 87*. Anyone close by (bororug) with an accurate temp reading?
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Apr 8, 2020 12:48:58 GMT -6
Hottest weather station in the metro goes to Arnold, MO where a home station reads 96*.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Apr 8, 2020 12:52:23 GMT -6
Also don't think any thing has been said but if you do go outside in the sun today make sure to lather up the sunscreen, hats, and sunglasses as a 'Ozone Hole' is spinning through North America creating UV indexes closer to the Summer Solstice or even better. The hole was caused by the insanely strong PV that kept Winter away from us for the most part. It's starting to finally collapse now. Finally. Good Grief. The hole should close in a couple weeks and the stratosphere warms.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Apr 8, 2020 12:52:51 GMT -6
Maybe that's been helping the virus too, as it is UV sensitive.
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Post by WEAXWATCHER on Apr 8, 2020 12:54:05 GMT -6
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