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Post by guyfromhecker on Jul 19, 2018 8:56:53 GMT -6
So supporting greater economic development and reducing trade deficit by buying American is "Lol"? Sorry I don't get it. I didn't put this on to start a debate. no, the funny part is you can't tell what's American-made anymore in the car market. I pass a a Toyota plant on a regular basis. If making corporate GM or Ford richer is going to make us better, which I highly question, sure it would be a better idea to buy them. As I said, the American-made thing is so confusing nowadays. Do you know where the largest BMW plant in the world is? Read this article and find out. You never know what product is going to help an American. But the vast majority of all vehicles we buy in this country are made in this country www.nytimes.com/2018/07/19/business/economy/tariffs-south-carolina-bmw.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur |
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Post by Tilawn on Jul 19, 2018 9:21:41 GMT -6
And looks to be expanding and intensifying a bit, too. Hopefully it will hang together as it moves this way That's heading down to the lake. We will have to wait and see if we can get something later afternoon/tonight
Radar makes it to look like it’s heading straight for us with an arrival time for me between 12:30 & 1:30 this afternoon. |
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Post by Chris Higgins on Jul 19, 2018 9:22:37 GMT -6
Back to weather... the picture is muddy to say the least for the rest of today. Developing QLCS over central Missouri is dropping southeast along the instability gradient. Of course, it is substantially larger and stronger than any model even hinted at yesterday..but that is no surprise. There may have been one or two runs in the mix of the multiple iterations of short term guidance that kind of looked like this...but the vast majority did not.
This QLCS is helping to reinforce the surface boundary...with rain cooled air to the east...and a steady diet of instability being supplied from the southwest. I suspect this QLCS will grow upscale and become severe as it moves south/southeast...with the centroid remaining well west of STL... but with the weaker "cool side" convection reaching STL by noon.
The severe threat in our viewing area through mid-afternoon seems to be diminishing as the main focus will be on the tail end of the complex where redevelopment will continue...perhaps for a good portion of the day...with the interaction of the outflow boundary, warm front and reservoir of unstable air to the west.
The question then becomes...if/when that activity clears...will the surface boundary(warm front/outflow) mix back to the east? If it does come east...then the intersection of that boundary with the cold front will be an interesting place to watch for supercellular development late today.
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Post by unclesam6 on Jul 19, 2018 9:56:45 GMT -6
Monsoon-like rains, 30-40 mph winds... just happy to see some water falling out of the sky
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Post by unclesam6 on Jul 19, 2018 9:57:28 GMT -6
potentially just had a gust 40-50
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Post by goosetalk - Troy, MO on Jul 19, 2018 10:43:31 GMT -6
SPCSPC update seems to be on the threat of the possible super cells later today, especially over central MO
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Post by toddatfarmington on Jul 19, 2018 11:07:11 GMT -6
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Jul 19, 2018 11:15:21 GMT -6
That's heading down to the lake. We will have to wait and see if we can get something later afternoon/tonight
Radar makes it to look like it’s heading straight for us with an arrival time for me between 12:30 & 1:30 this afternoon. Looks like we'll get some rain in the city, but nothing severe. I'll take that. |
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Post by Tilawn on Jul 19, 2018 11:41:37 GMT -6
Rain here nice steady shower. Just what we need for about 2 days straight
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Post by goosetalk - Troy, MO on Jul 19, 2018 11:45:30 GMT -6
SPCSPC update seems to be on the threat of the possible super cells later today, especially over central MO They edited the hail hatch area to S Central Iowa and SWMOish |
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Jul 19, 2018 11:55:49 GMT -6
Rain hitting a brick wall as it enters the Metro. Looks like the immediate metro to the southeast will stay high and dry for much of the reminder of the day.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Jul 19, 2018 11:57:06 GMT -6
Friday looks like a potential major outbreak especially in the Ohio Valley, but even as far northwest as here has some chance depending on smaller meso scale factors.
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Post by toddatfarmington on Jul 19, 2018 12:33:07 GMT -6
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Post by bdgwx on Jul 19, 2018 14:15:10 GMT -6
Ill be traveling to SW Mo Thursday Night so im keeping an eye on this setup. Last thing I want to do is drive through an MCS The forecasted high in Branson tomorrow is 100F. Enjoy! 99 is jealous...he's just too embarrassed to admit it. |
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Post by bdgwx on Jul 19, 2018 14:23:33 GMT -6
By the way, I wouldn't be surprised to see tornado reports as far north as Minnesota near the North Dakota border. The landspout or cloud air funnel parameters are wicked high; the highest I've ever seen.
The SPC just upgraded to an enhanced risk in the KC area and added a 5% tornado risk area in Iowa.
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Post by ajd446 on Jul 19, 2018 14:30:03 GMT -6
Does it look like much of anything severe for st.louis. also I would not be surprised to break 100 Tommorrow here
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Post by toddatfarmington on Jul 19, 2018 14:34:26 GMT -6
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Post by ajd446 on Jul 19, 2018 14:35:39 GMT -6
Favorable winds for a hot day
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Jul 19, 2018 14:38:42 GMT -6
Iowa storm chasing network posted this picture about 3 pm. Taken by a Kelly Kar near Altoona, IA |
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Post by bdgwx on Jul 19, 2018 14:38:48 GMT -6
The reason why extreme southern MO and AR get so hot tomorrow is because this huge system is pulling those toasty 850mb temperatures into the area. But, up here we'll be getting cooler air from the northwest.
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Post by Snowman99 on Jul 19, 2018 14:41:54 GMT -6
I secretly pray for 105+ every day from June til October. I love it.
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Post by ajd446 on Jul 19, 2018 14:50:03 GMT -6
What about our storm chances
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Post by bdgwx on Jul 19, 2018 14:54:31 GMT -6
For what it's worth I'll be in Phoenix on Tuesday when it's forecasted to be 115F. If I'm lucky it might even get hot enough that my flight gets delayed because the airplanes can't take off.
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Post by Snowman99 on Jul 19, 2018 14:55:56 GMT -6
I say our chances of storms are pretty low . It'll all stay north and west tonight..then east tomorrow. Which would be absolutely shocking.
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Post by Snowman99 on Jul 19, 2018 14:56:42 GMT -6
For what it's worth I'll be in Phoenix on Tuesday when it's forecasted to be 115F. If I'm lucky it might even get hot enough that my flight gets delayed because the airplanes can't take off. But it'll only feel like 112. Dry heat. Lame. |
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Post by ajd446 on Jul 19, 2018 15:09:37 GMT -6
Interesting collision of outflows bout to happen in Kansas city.
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Post by jeffcobeeman on Jul 19, 2018 15:21:43 GMT -6
Arrived at Lebanon about an hour ago. Very humid down here. Skies look pretty bad. As I was setting up the trailer, I watched some mammatus clouds pass to the north of us. We took a 30 minute layover at the Road Ranger truck stop on 44 at the Dixon exit to let a nasty looking storm cross the highway. I didn't want to risk cutting through 60 mph winds and a downpour towing a 5th wheel. The wind wasnt too bad, but it poured for 15 minutes. When we got back on the hyw, and got to Waynesville, the ditches looked like rivers.Severe thunderstorm warnings currently southwest of here at Springfield. Hope the severe stuff misses Bennett Springs.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Jul 19, 2018 15:23:03 GMT -6
Ill be traveling to SW Mo Thursday Night so im keeping an eye on this setup. Last thing I want to do is drive through an MCS The forecasted high in Branson tomorrow is 100F. Enjoy! 99 is jealous...he's just too embarrassed to admit it. Good thing we're not leaving until later tonight because that looks like a nasty MCS forming south of KC.
We have a few extra beds down there 99 if you want to come and enjoy the 100 degree heat  |
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Post by ajd446 on Jul 19, 2018 15:28:07 GMT -6
Very steamy with over a inch if rain at Spencer and willot today in st.peters. temp 89 dp 75
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Post by Chris Higgins on Jul 19, 2018 15:33:02 GMT -6
Kind of looks like we may experience the great split. The outflow has held the southern portion of the effective warm front well to our west/southwest...where it is serving as a track for the approaching severe QLCS coming out of KS. That will work hard to hold severe weather to southwest with that complex... and I'm not seeing anything interesting in the CU field northwest of STL...to the south of the ongoing supercell parade in Iowa.
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