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Post by rb1108 on Nov 29, 2018 22:28:16 GMT -6
I wonder if Dave is sticking to his cold/below average December temperature forecast? Many on here have mentioned indications from models for this possibly not to be the case.
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Post by STGOutdoors on Nov 29, 2018 22:32:42 GMT -6
Let's see if the gfs loses the late week storm like it does pretty regularly at this range before finding it again... 00z GGEM is way too slow with the ejection allowing WAA to make it a rainer. Yea Gfs is a hair slower too with partially the same result. Gotta get it in with the cold air nearby.
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Post by Snowman99 on Nov 29, 2018 22:34:55 GMT -6
Gfs is borderline. But has a formidable system.
And dave ALWAYS stands by his forecasts..he never changes. We have said this many times over the years.
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Post by mchafin on Nov 29, 2018 22:38:41 GMT -6
I'm fairly certain that:
1) Dave is sticking with his guns. He always does and 2) He could give 2 flying....kites....about what we all think of his outlook
That dude is retired. And if I were him, I'd be finally enjoying the time off with Janis and his dog(s) - can't remember how many he has. I'm 42 and can't wait until I can sit around in my boxers, say things, and be comfortable with the fact that I don't care what people think about what I say.
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Post by maddogchief on Nov 29, 2018 23:54:54 GMT -6
Long range forecasts are strictly for entertainment value. I imagine if landscaper prepared his business based on the long range forecasts he’d have a mountain of salt in April and trying to mow grass in January.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Nov 30, 2018 0:56:11 GMT -6
Euro has a warning level snowfall along and south of 44 with the system late next week. Almost everyone would see 3+ inches
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Post by cardsnweather on Nov 30, 2018 6:33:17 GMT -6
Euro has a warning level snowfall along and south of 44 with the system late next week. Almost everyone would see 3+ inches That’s good because the GFS is all over the place right now.
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Post by STGOutdoors on Nov 30, 2018 7:15:18 GMT -6
Euro has a warning level snowfall along and south of 44 with the system late next week. Almost everyone would see 3+ inches That’s good because the GFS is all over the place right now. Like I said yesterday the euro has been the best and most consistent. Let's hope it stays that way because the 00z run was freakin phenomenal. It's had some variations in its solutions but overall has held strong even at this range.
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Post by Lovableweatherguy TROY,MO on Nov 30, 2018 8:11:34 GMT -6
Ya 06z gfs sucks!
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Nov 30, 2018 8:20:10 GMT -6
You'll be a bigger fan of the FV3-gfs...
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Post by Lovableweatherguy TROY,MO on Nov 30, 2018 10:49:19 GMT -6
You'll be a bigger fan of the FV3-gfs... That is true, I always forget about to check that one. When does that one fully take the place of the old GFS?
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Post by Lovableweatherguy TROY,MO on Nov 30, 2018 10:55:33 GMT -6
Spc looks like they expanded the marginal risk further west to include more of our area with this current system moving in. Anyone care to elaborate on it more? Severe threat still seem fair?
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Nov 30, 2018 11:28:02 GMT -6
Spc looks like they expanded the marginal risk further west to include more of our area with this current system moving in. Anyone care to elaborate on it more? Severe threat still seem fair? Models have trended slower and further W with the track of the low...not surprising with a closed, negatively tilted system.
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Nov 30, 2018 12:44:50 GMT -6
12z euro is probably going to be pretty darn good based off the 24 hour charts.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Nov 30, 2018 12:54:20 GMT -6
12z euro is probably going to be pretty darn good based off the 24 hour charts. Its alittle south but I like the look of it. Given how prevalent the north trend is this year, being south at this range is probably a good thing
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Post by Chris Higgins on Nov 30, 2018 12:54:39 GMT -6
12z euro is probably going to be pretty darn good based off the 24 hour charts. Nope... its an Ohio River ranger...misses pretty much the entire viewing area to the south.
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Post by jmg378s on Nov 30, 2018 13:18:28 GMT -6
A few of the CAMs are generating storms with modest UH tracks west of the river tomorrow afternoon, but for the most part global models are stingy with afternoon convection and what there is is well east or northeast of St. Louis. That leaves me thinking severe weather for the metro proper is still somewhat low, but worth a marginal risk unless the frontal passage is even slower in which a categorical upgrade might be warranted. I can however see a threat more reflective of slight risk, although that's still iffy, in IL given the timing of the front and owing to the likely development of at least 500j/kg of CAPE and 50+kts of deep layer shear. If directional & low level shear work out like the NAM then yes a couple tornadoes could be possible too...if afternoon storms develop and mature...but I tend to think a few storms will pop up along the front given there is some, even if weakish, surface convergence going on combined with around 90m 500mb height falls occurring during the period.
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Nov 30, 2018 13:21:48 GMT -6
12z euro is probably going to be pretty darn good based off the 24 hour charts. Nope... its an Ohio River ranger...misses pretty much the entire viewing area to the south. Well, it's a good thing you don't have to forecast solely on 24 hour 500mb charts... It actually still is pretty good at this range as far as the ingredients being on the table. Very rarely do we see models latch on in the 7-10 day range without 250 miles plus run-to-run variations.
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Post by Chris Higgins on Nov 30, 2018 13:25:56 GMT -6
MAJOR earthquake centered near Anchorage, AK... 7.0M with widespread major damage... The tweet says 7.2M but that has been revised downward... Tsunami Warning was issued but has since been cancelled.
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Nov 30, 2018 13:36:25 GMT -6
MAJOR earthquake centered near Anchorage, AK... 7.0M with widespread major damage... The tweet says 7.2M but that has been revised downward... Tsunami Warning was issued but has since been cancelled. I have friends in that area. I'm anxious to hear that they're okay. But I don't want to try to call or text. I'll leave the lines of communication open for families and other important communication
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Nov 30, 2018 13:47:33 GMT -6
One of my friends has checked in on Facebook. Said cell service is iffy. He and his family are okay, but he has not gotten to his home yet. Said it was major movement for at least a minute. He's a substitute teacher and is sheltering at the school. He posted these pictures on Facebook. Fire Marshall is at the school doing inspection. School name is Palmer Junior Middle School
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Post by guyfromhecker on Nov 30, 2018 14:07:16 GMT -6
Saw a pic on fb of a school floor that had a crack in it
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Nov 30, 2018 14:19:16 GMT -6
Models are trending towards a flatter, more suppressed track for next week's storm. This is mostly due to a secondary shortwave digging across the lakes in the N branch that re-enforces the confluent flow/surface ridging across the OHV. We need that to come in weaker or faster or the storm will be squashed. The EC is substantially weaker with that wave and places the surface ridge in a much more favorable position...pretty much in our wheelhouse, actually with it sitting right over the lakes.
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Nov 30, 2018 14:24:20 GMT -6
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Post by STGOutdoors on Nov 30, 2018 14:49:42 GMT -6
The storm will come back north.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Nov 30, 2018 15:22:15 GMT -6
NAM both 3KM HiRes and 12KM along with the ICON getting spunky with the band of storms tomorrow along and east of the Mississippi, WRF/NMM even showing some what looks like 'hooks' on a couple of the cells around the Metro. Tomorrow 12-3PM could be interesting short fuse outbreak of strong to severe storms (short duration).
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Post by STGOutdoors on Nov 30, 2018 16:28:03 GMT -6
This is the bad part of a major system showing up at long range. It's like having a fish bit right after you cast waaay out into the lake. Long time to try and reel it in.
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Post by pbc12871 on Nov 30, 2018 16:43:12 GMT -6
Or the fish gets away when you get it within ten feet of landing it.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Nov 30, 2018 17:16:24 GMT -6
HRRR hinting at a decent squall line on the backside of the rain/storm shied hitting around 6-8AM. Could have some decent winds with it.
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Post by Snowman99 on Nov 30, 2018 17:43:23 GMT -6
Going to be a mudfest tak8ng the pup out in the morning. Gross. Much prefer the frozen or white ground.
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