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Post by guyfromhecker on Dec 20, 2018 15:18:53 GMT -6
Go ahead all you mods. Stick your heads in the sand. I don't know where they were yesterday. I'm not backing off of this because I was right yesterday. That was b******* about that Washington Post article. That was solid journalism. You guys let that s*** slide don't expect people not to get upset.
Go back and read the damn thing. The poster implies The Washington Post had some sort of motive to stir s*** up or something. It was a damn solid scientific article. That's all it was. We get a good solid scientific article in journalism and everybody lumped in with all the other crap. Open your eyes.
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Post by cozpregon on Dec 20, 2018 15:24:06 GMT -6
This should be in the category... who gives a crap.
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Post by guyfromhecker on Dec 20, 2018 15:26:12 GMT -6
You know what screw y'all I'm leaving let the idiot stay here. I'm serious folks.
Have a nice day.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Dec 20, 2018 15:30:29 GMT -6
Bye!
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Post by unclesam6 on Dec 20, 2018 15:55:28 GMT -6
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Post by mchafin on Dec 20, 2018 16:01:55 GMT -6
Good Lord. As a frequent reader of Washington Post articles, I was neither offended, conflicted, or otherwise interested in reading the article, regardless of what the poster said. And as a moderator, I'm more offended by your statement that my head is stuck in the sand. What the hell would I delete? And for what purpose? WE NEED A FRIGGIN' STORM TO TRACK OR THIS PLACE IS ABOUT TO IMPLODE.
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Dec 20, 2018 16:02:50 GMT -6
The funny thing is that article did a great job of breaking Cohen's blog into something digestible to the masses.
Go try reading his blog if you haven't had some healthy study in meteorology (its dense).
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Dec 20, 2018 16:08:37 GMT -6
We really need a storm to track
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Post by Snowman99 on Dec 20, 2018 16:11:21 GMT -6
Getting this upset at a weather article is humorous. The article was fine, no problems with it. Telling the mods we should have done something and our heads are in the sand is a bit much. I'll do something and give you a warning, Phil...if you decide to come back.
WsC is right..Cohen's blog is very detailed and if you don't know met jargon it's a lot of gobbledygook. I gloss over some of it. Lol.
No white Christmas..maybe a few flakes in the air. Severe wx possible late next week.
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Post by pbc12871 on Dec 20, 2018 16:35:04 GMT -6
What in the hecker has been going on here??
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Post by REB on Dec 20, 2018 16:41:56 GMT -6
And Merry Christmas
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Post by Frivolousz21 on Dec 20, 2018 16:43:29 GMT -6
That headline and much of the statements within the article are simply misleading. "Last year a vortex that originated in Eurasia swept eastern North America, causing windstorms that lasted weeks."...um, what? They make it sound like the vortex is a glorified cold front. Are we still doing this? Day after tomorrow II "END GAME"
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Post by Lovableweatherguy TROY,MO on Dec 20, 2018 17:01:46 GMT -6
Well our oven heating element went out last night so there is that and then I woke up to what sounded like a water fall in the basement. Yep what everywhere about 1-2 inches deep. Iuckely our basement is not finished. It still was a HUGE mess.
The clamp broke off of the PVC pipe that attaches it to the sumpump. Water was just gushing out of the pipe from the rain I guess?? Not much here really....ugh! Long bleep day! I had to miss work which was another issue right before the Holidays.
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Post by guyfromhecker on Dec 20, 2018 17:17:07 GMT -6
Okay folks. I'll say it as slow as I can. I will defend solid journalism till the day I die. This man smeared the post and the article. You all stood around and pretty much let it sink into the morass of all the rest of the quote, media. That was a solid piece of Journalism. This was an attack basically on the Washington Post. It doesn't belong here. Open your eyes folks that's what's wrong with this country. We don't care anymore. It's "the media". We have no sense of discerning. We lump it all together and we'll lose the great ones. We will. The poster should have pulled up that fox article today because that was the real bul! POOPY !.
The poster implied that the Post had other motives, but what they they were really trying to show us was that they have a science writer. He wrote a damn good article.
Then I post the fox thing and a moderator comes back and says I can't believe we are still doing this. Excuse me, but count me out. I'm not doing this. neither is my Washington Post.
FOX did it
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Post by guyfromhecker on Dec 20, 2018 17:20:06 GMT -6
Another small piece of news to you all there is no the media. There isn't.
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Post by Chris Higgins on Dec 20, 2018 17:26:00 GMT -6
Washington Post has gone to a "let's see if we can get everyone to freak out" story. In the ''whatever it's worth' department. But I'm betting all kinds of smaller newspapers and electronic media outlets will pick the story up as a 100% certainty Polar vortex could unleash winter wallop by JanuaryThe article itslef is pretty well written and breaks down some really high order weather theories. My concern is that other less reputable, headline seaking organizations will get a hold of this and rebrand it with some over the top headline....that itself will make news. And instead of people actually reading the article...which is well written and sourced...they will only see the over the top headline... and take it as gospel. There is nothing any of us can do to prevent that from happening. We live in a free society where people are allowed to be stupid...which they are if you only read headlines and not the story. My question to the masses is how is this different from posting a model snowfall fantasy two weeks out? I think it is different...in one VERY important way...it includes quality science and interpretation from a highly credible scientist...posting model fantasy charts does not. So I like the content... but would have rather seen it in BAMs or other scientific journal.
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Post by Chris Higgins on Dec 20, 2018 17:28:27 GMT -6
Okay folks. I'll say it as slow as I can. I will defend solid journalism till the day I die. This man smeared the post and the article. You all stood around and pretty much let it sink into the morass of all the rest of the quote, media. That was a solid piece of Journalism. This was an attack basically on the Washington Post. It doesn't belong here. Open your eyes folks that's what's wrong with this country. We don't care anymore. It's "the media". We have no sense of discerning. We lump it all together and we'll lose the great ones. We will. The poster should have pulled up that fox article today because that was the real bul! POOPY !. The poster implied that the Post had other motives, but what they they were really trying to show us was that they have a science writer. He wrote a damn good article. Then I post the fox thing and a moderator comes back and says I can't believe we are still doing this. Excuse me, but count me out. I'm not doing this. neither is my Washington Post. FOX did it Who are you talking about? Nobody smeared anyone (not in here anyway). They expressed opinions....some good natured fun was had...but nothing over the top.
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Post by RyanD on Dec 20, 2018 17:29:09 GMT -6
Another small piece of news to you all there is no the media. There isn't. Good lord let it go. I think a mute is in order. No matter what you think doesn't matter if you are going to never let it go and derail the thread. Geesh! In other news, is this another rainy deformation zone today? Sure looks like it on the radar.
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Dec 20, 2018 17:38:00 GMT -6
Certainly had that MO wintry feel today.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Dec 20, 2018 17:54:59 GMT -6
Washington Post has gone to a "let's see if we can get everyone to freak out" story. In the ''whatever it's worth' department. But I'm betting all kinds of smaller newspapers and electronic media outlets will pick the story up as a 100% certainty Polar vortex could unleash winter wallop by JanuaryThe article itslef is pretty well written and breaks down some really high order weather theories. My concern is that other less reputable, headline seaking organizations will get a hold of this and rebrand it with some over the top headline....that itself will make news. And instead of people actually reading the article...which is well written and sourced...they will only see the over the top headline... and take it as gospel. There is nothing any of us can do to prevent that from happening. We live in a free society where people are allowed to be stupid...which they are if you only read headlines and not the story. My question to the masses is how is this different from posting a model snowfall fantasy two weeks out? I think it is different...in one VERY important way...it includes quality science and interpretation from a highly credible scientist...posting model fantasy charts does not. So I like the content... but would have rather seen it in BAMs or other scientific journal. That last point pretty much sumed it up for me. The mainstream public could care less about stratospheric warming or the polar vortex...they just want to know if it's going to be warm or cold tomorrow and if it's going to rain or snow. That's why I question the use of the term "polar vortex" in the first place. It's just a flashy term that gets over/misused by the media...like bombogenesis.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Dec 20, 2018 17:58:10 GMT -6
Another small piece of news to you all there is no the media. There isn't. Good lord let it go. I think a mute is in order. No matter what you think doesn't matter if you are going to never let it go and derail the thread. Geesh! In other news, is this another rainy deformation zone today? Sure looks like it on the radar. Unfortunately, it is. I really think if this system would have phased better and closed off further north we would have had a decent snowstorm today. These southern stream cyclones have really been stubborn to come north this season. Hopefully we get some favorable blocking the rest if the winter so the N branch plays ball...and I suspect we will.
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Post by Snowman99 on Dec 20, 2018 18:06:38 GMT -6
If it were only December. ..that is something people should never ever say with regards to a storm in October, assuming it will be cold enough in December. We have seen it 2 or 3 times this month that its pure horse crap. And I figured it would happen.
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Post by guyfromhecker on Dec 20, 2018 18:17:58 GMT -6
Washington Post has gone to a "let's see if we can get everyone to freak out" story. In the ''whatever it's worth' department. But I'm betting all kinds of smaller newspapers and electronic media outlets will pick the story up as a 100% certainty Polar vortex could unleash winter wallop by JanuaryWell Chris if this is no swipe at the post I guess you could call it a compliment. What the hell is a newspaper supposed to do when they have a real science writer? Dumb it down? You can't see? It's like, here we go again. This was not here we go again, it was a solid piece of Journalism. I guess they need to get rid of their science writer? What the hell? And then some say leave this to the journals. Well okay I'll say gun makers should quit making guns and then will draw that out the same way. Give me a break, God. But just leave the country dumb and not let them read this sort of stuff I guess it's dangerous. Oh my God Leave the serious science stuff in the closet where it belongs. I'm telling you guys, I just don't believe you guys sometimes. Knowledge is dangerous. Boy Leave with this last thought. Can anybody tell me how many people have been killed or injured by this loose science we talk about?
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Post by bear1 on Dec 20, 2018 18:33:47 GMT -6
Hear ye, Hear ye!! This court is now in session with the Honorable Judge, "Chris Higgins"... Please be seated.
"Judge Higgins", anymore outburst of this kind will not be tolerated!
"Judge Higgins", If I hear anymore arguments or outburst on this subject, I will declare a mistrial!!
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Dec 20, 2018 18:38:11 GMT -6
I'm guessing you're gonna tell us, Phil.
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Dec 20, 2018 18:53:11 GMT -6
18z Fv3-gfs sure looks good for the first day of 2019.
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Post by RyanD on Dec 20, 2018 19:03:05 GMT -6
In the honor of snowman I hereby call today's rain "backwash rain"
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Dec 20, 2018 19:05:52 GMT -6
Also, looks like the Cardinals will sign Andrew Miller tomorrow.
It gets easier to be a Cardinals fan in Chicago by the day...
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Post by Chris Higgins on Dec 20, 2018 19:11:16 GMT -6
Washington Post has gone to a "let's see if we can get everyone to freak out" story. In the ''whatever it's worth' department. But I'm betting all kinds of smaller newspapers and electronic media outlets will pick the story up as a 100% certainty Polar vortex could unleash winter wallop by JanuaryWell Chris if this is no swipe at the post I guess you could call it a compliment. What the hell is a newspaper supposed to do when they have a real science writer? Dumb it down? You can't see? It's like, here we go again. This was not here we go again, it was a solid piece of Journalism. I guess they need to get rid of their science writer? What the hell? And then some say leave this to the journals. Well okay I'll say gun makers should quit making guns and then will draw that out the same way. Give me a break, God. But just leave the country dumb and not let them read this sort of stuff I guess it's dangerous. Oh my God Leave the serious science stuff in the closet where it belongs. I'm telling you guys, I just don't believe you guys sometimes. Knowledge is dangerous. Boy Leave with this last thought. Can anybody tell me how many people have been killed or injured by this loose science we talk about? I don't call it anything. It is one person's opinion...which by the way that person is entitled to express. It is neither offensive nor done in a way that makes it personal. There is plenty more I would like to say, but I've already wasted too much of my holiday vacation putting out fires. So I am going to go put my head back in the sand and drink a beer! Merry Christmas to all...and too all a Bud Light!
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Post by Chris Higgins on Dec 20, 2018 19:19:55 GMT -6
Moderators... please see your private messages for important holiday information.
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