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Post by Snowstorm920 on Feb 12, 2019 12:15:40 GMT -6
Euro has 6+ right through the heart of the area Friday again
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Post by mchafin on Feb 12, 2019 12:17:29 GMT -6
I hate how the STLNWS sets up wind advisories. It always seems like they forget to take into account the high rises in STL that accelerate the winds for us to also need the advisory. They're already calling for 43mph gusts. Why not throw the advisory and just be on the safe side? Edit: Yes if you see the comment on their FB page that was obviously me. I'm not trying to be snarky, but if a wind adviosry were hoisted for STL and surrounding counties -- what changes? |
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Feb 12, 2019 12:18:34 GMT -6
Southerners would be dealing with ice storm Friday on the euro
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Post by scmhack on Feb 12, 2019 12:19:21 GMT -6
I hate how the STLNWS sets up wind advisories. It always seems like they forget to take into account the high rises in STL that accelerate the winds for us to also need the advisory. They're already calling for 43mph gusts. Why not throw the advisory and just be on the safe side? Edit: Yes if you see the comment on their FB page that was obviously me. I'm not trying to be snarky, but if a wind adviosry were hoisted for STL and surrounding counties -- what changes? Whats the point of even having the advisory at all then? I'm just giving factors to why it would be perfectly logical and then MoDOT would put it on the digital boards. Its safety and CYA. And also allows for insurance to take factors into account for truckers. |
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Post by scmhack on Feb 12, 2019 12:23:36 GMT -6
Also another factor is downriver propagation of the wind that could accelerate it into the metro as well. Just put the river counties down to Monroe/Jeffco under the advisory and it allows for maximum coverage of potential
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Post by cardsnweather on Feb 12, 2019 12:26:47 GMT -6
Lol if we get 6+ Friday and then have another to track this weekend this will be a fantastic winter.
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Feb 12, 2019 12:32:06 GMT -6
Imby, my point click forecast doesnt meet the criterion for advisory. 23 mph gust to 40. So not an issue in ofallon mo. Criteria is 25 to 39 gusts to 57. My winds arent unusual.
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Post by ajd446 on Feb 12, 2019 12:32:55 GMT -6
All honesty what's the difference between 43 and 45 lol.
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Post by scmhack on Feb 12, 2019 12:33:54 GMT -6
Considering I just registered a gust at 44 on my handheld anemometer I'm gonna re calibrate it but my opinion really hasn't changed
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Post by scmhack on Feb 12, 2019 12:35:19 GMT -6
Speaking as someone who has also done a lot of supply chain work as well with doing biochem, a wind advisory over our shipping lanes does actually buy us time and causes us to slow down and have insurance work with us. If we're rushing trucks out there and cause an accident we become partially liable too.
Edit: This might be the first post I've had here that actually made me feel like an adult and not just a kid on a weather forum anymore. Oh no. It finally happened at 28 and a half.
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Feb 12, 2019 12:38:13 GMT -6
All honesty what's the difference between 43 and 45 lol. I wld go for integrity of the warning criteria. If its close where do you draw the line. |
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Feb 12, 2019 12:38:42 GMT -6
Pretty good ice storm look to the 12z euro for next week.
You guys might be sick of winter in a week.
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Feb 12, 2019 12:40:50 GMT -6
Pretty good ice storm look to the 12z euro for next week. You guys might be sick of winter in a week. Im sick of ice...hate that stuff. Wld rather have snow but st louis is the new south it seems. |
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Feb 12, 2019 12:42:23 GMT -6
The GEM is good for Friday. This is really really good for us.  That teleconnection pattern is ripe for overrunning across the central/midwest US...next week could be nasty. |
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Post by cardsnweather on Feb 12, 2019 12:42:29 GMT -6
All honesty what's the difference between 43 and 45 lol. Now it all makes sense. |
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Post by cardsnweather on Feb 12, 2019 12:42:54 GMT -6
I get sick of the cold but I will never get sick of winter precip.
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Post by scmhack on Feb 12, 2019 12:45:27 GMT -6
All honesty what's the difference between 43 and 45 lol. I wld go for integrity of the warning criteria. If its close where do you draw the line. If its close like that just round up. We do it with other measurements all the time like with expected thunderstorm gusts |
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Feb 12, 2019 12:49:22 GMT -6
Op gfs has 4 chances for snow...friday with borderline temps. Saturday night, early next week with boderline temps then around the 24th. The ua pattern looks good too. None of these storms look real heavy, even if the qpf looks high i think fridays storm will be in and out of here in a hurry, but some impact from these systems look likely.
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Post by STGOutdoors on Feb 12, 2019 12:51:56 GMT -6
The Zr is probably overdone on the Euro for the southerners. I could see some sleet contamination but that is not a favorable system for ice. That's normally more snow even down here with that point of entry (from W/NW).
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Post by mchafin on Feb 12, 2019 12:52:29 GMT -6
Speaking as someone who has also done a lot of supply chain work as well with doing biochem, a wind advisory over our shipping lanes does actually buy us time and causes us to slow down and have insurance work with us. If we're rushing trucks out there and cause an accident we become partially liable too. Edit: This might be the first post I've had here that actually made me feel like an adult and not just a kid on a weather forum anymore. Oh no. It finally happened at 28 and a half. And this makes sense. For the normal person, it just means not putting a box full of loose papers out by the mailbox. |
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Post by STGOutdoors on Feb 12, 2019 12:52:57 GMT -6
I wld go for integrity of the warning criteria. If its close where do you draw the line. If its close like that just round up. We do it with other measurements all the time like with expected thunderstorm gustsAnd... Still waiting on that picture. |
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Post by RyanD on Feb 12, 2019 12:53:21 GMT -6
Southerners would be dealing with ice storm Friday on the euro This include Waterloo and Arnold or more Farmington and Perryville? |
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Feb 12, 2019 12:53:34 GMT -6
I wld go for integrity of the warning criteria. If its close where do you draw the line. If its close like that just round up. We do it with other measurements all the time like with expected thunderstorm gusts Thunderstorm gusts are likely to be higher without warning due to the dynamics of rain cooled air, etc. But maybe you have an argument. I have seen winterstorm warnings for 4 to 6 inches of snow which to me, means 6 inches is not a definite in those cases, assuming that the winterstorm criterion is 6 inches or more per 24 hours. |
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Post by mchafin on Feb 12, 2019 12:53:50 GMT -6
All honesty what's the difference between 43 and 45 lol. Now it all makes sense. Like the difference between .5" of snow and 0.01" of snow? |
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Feb 12, 2019 12:55:08 GMT -6
If its close like that just round up. We do it with other measurements all the time like with expected thunderstorm gustsAnd... Still waiting on that picture. What picture? None of us were asked for a picture. |
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Post by RyanD on Feb 12, 2019 12:57:54 GMT -6
And... Still waiting on that picture. What picture? None of us were asked for a picture. ADJ was asked but I don't think he is involved in this comment. |
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Feb 12, 2019 13:00:29 GMT -6
What picture? None of us were asked for a picture. ADJ was asked but I don't think he is involved in this comment. Oh gotcha. I saw a comment earlier abt .5 vs .01 and i had recalled that mwitt had some issue with decimal points, etc years ago....i know i got some air snow but nothing accumulated. |
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Post by STGOutdoors on Feb 12, 2019 13:02:27 GMT -6
It wasn't directed at you two but was an opportunity I couldn't pass up.
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Post by scmhack on Feb 12, 2019 13:09:14 GMT -6
I mean I could look at old thunderstorm warnings and compare to old radar images if you want but honestly, I aint paid to do that and am only going off things I've seen.... From elevation of course  |
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Feb 12, 2019 13:13:30 GMT -6
I mean I could look at old thunderstorm warnings and compare to old radar images if you want but honestly, I aint paid to do that and am only going off things I've seen.... From elevation of course Well if your business process is dependent on headlines, good luck....maybe you will get an explanation...my hunch is it may not be the explanation youre looking for but maybe your business process shld take something else into account. |
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