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Post by birddog on Dec 15, 2019 16:45:35 GMT -6
Absolutely pouring snow here! When this band passes I will measure for a total.
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Post by ajd446 on Dec 15, 2019 16:48:49 GMT -6
Neighbor says 4 in st.peters i will confirm when i get off shift from plowing. I would say 3. We have about 2 in the city of st.louis where i am plowing. Definately very intense bands they just moved more than thought. But with another 2 to tomorrow.most will be in the 4 to 7 range like chris said. Just the cut off on the south side was incredibly sharp
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Post by cardsnweather on Dec 15, 2019 17:01:57 GMT -6
This light freezing drizzle/sleet is going to make the roads brutal.
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Post by stlweatherguy - Hillsboro, MO on Dec 15, 2019 17:03:43 GMT -6
Dusting in Hillsboro, MO. Really not much hear.
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Post by bororug on Dec 15, 2019 17:13:41 GMT -6
Steady light freezing rain. Everything in our subdivision is a sheet of ice. Temp: 28
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Post by demerson- Fletcher MO on Dec 15, 2019 17:15:07 GMT -6
Solid inch here in St. Clair. Been frz drz for a bit now.
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Post by Frivolousz21 on Dec 15, 2019 17:21:34 GMT -6
4" in St. Peter's?
I'm not trying to be critical but that just doesn't add up with everything else around the area
We have 1.5" in Belleville but it's melting a bit.
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bgff
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Post by bgff on Dec 15, 2019 17:22:47 GMT -6
Dusting in Hillsboro, MO. Really not much hear. That depends where you are in Hillsboro. Yes the city of Hillsboro proper, has much less than just a mile north of the city limits. I'm live on the far north side of Raintree. I have measured 1.5 to 2 inches. Razor thin cut off lines for sure
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Post by toddatfarmington on Dec 15, 2019 17:23:23 GMT -6
Freezing mist is impacting the roads here, multiple accidents being reported around the area
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Post by Frivolousz21 on Dec 15, 2019 17:25:16 GMT -6
4" in St. Peter's? I'm not trying to be critical but that just doesn't add up with everything else around the area We have 1.5" in Belleville but it's melting a bit. I was crabby this morning. But the models totally blew in holding the band stationary over anywhere. Beeaker was right about the models under estimating the Southern transition. But the models blew along 70
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Post by MakeitRain on Dec 15, 2019 17:26:25 GMT -6
Drop the warning and chalk it up as a loss.
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Post by Snowman99 on Dec 15, 2019 17:30:46 GMT -6
RAP sure is feisty with tomorrow's wave
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Dec 15, 2019 17:33:14 GMT -6
4" in St. Peter's? I'm not trying to be critical but that just doesn't add up with everything else around the area We have 1.5" in Belleville but it's melting a bit. I saw sev rpts of 4 on dave murrays fb from ofallon and st peters. I assume though since its a public rpt that it was an eyeball rpt. I think 3 is reasonable. Im very close to 3.
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Post by demerson- Fletcher MO on Dec 15, 2019 17:33:26 GMT -6
Lots of SE jeffco got basically zero snow today. Hopefully they can at least get a dusting tomorrow.
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Post by unclesam6 on Dec 15, 2019 17:35:35 GMT -6
Drop the warning and chalk it up as a loss. lol
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Dec 15, 2019 17:36:43 GMT -6
Lots of SE jeffco got basically zero snow today. Hopefully they can at least get a dusting tomorrow. Latest data looks promising for those that missed out today
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Post by STGOutdoors on Dec 15, 2019 17:37:27 GMT -6
Steady frz drizzle in Perryville. Nice glaze developing on vehicles and elevated surfaces. We must be just a hair below freezing. Another degree or two drop tonight and it’ll get real dicey.
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Post by jmg378s on Dec 15, 2019 17:38:27 GMT -6
I measured 2.4" in eastern St. Peters
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Post by showtime - Marissa on Dec 15, 2019 17:41:40 GMT -6
4" in St. Peter's? I'm not trying to be critical but that just doesn't add up with everything else around the area We have 1.5" in Belleville but it's melting a bit. I was crabby this morning. But the models totally blew in holding the band stationary over anywhere. Beeaker was right about the models under estimating the Southern transition. But the models blew along 70 At least you had some snow lol..... It literally snowed here for maybe 15 minutes at a decent clip.....joking aside we are getting some light freezing rain though now
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Post by TK on Dec 15, 2019 17:44:28 GMT -6
2.5 here in Dardenne Prarie- Currently light sleet
Looks like wave 2 coming in late Mon morning into evening - Is that correct?
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Post by mosue56 on Dec 15, 2019 17:46:36 GMT -6
Showtime-marissa, you must get our weather from Festus? It sounds like your weather today was the same as ours!
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Post by WEAXWATCHER on Dec 15, 2019 17:51:35 GMT -6
Very light liquid mist stuff falling here.
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Post by birddog on Dec 15, 2019 17:53:08 GMT -6
Measured 3.5" about half hour ago. Seems it is either melting or compacting. Accumulation is hard to come by with this event. High here today was 26. Currently 24
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Post by dschreib on Dec 15, 2019 17:54:32 GMT -6
I was crabby this morning. But the models totally blew in holding the band stationary over anywhere. Beeaker was right about the models under estimating the Southern transition. But the models blew along 70 At least you had some snow lol..... It literally snowed here for maybe 15 minutes at a decent clip.....joking aside we are getting some light freezing rain though now If you drive about 2 miles south of town, there's nothing. Rain and 30-ish. Glaze on windshields and elevated surfaces in Marissa area. Roads are just wet right now.
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Post by koll27–Waterloo, IL on Dec 15, 2019 17:57:28 GMT -6
Another channel just mentioned the possibility of heavier snowSTL and points southeast tomorrow. Is that what the RAP is hinting at?
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Dec 15, 2019 18:00:52 GMT -6
4" in St. Peter's? I'm not trying to be critical but that just doesn't add up with everything else around the area We have 1.5" in Belleville but it's melting a bit. I was crabby this morning. But the models totally blew in holding the band stationary over anywhere. Beeaker was right about the models under estimating the Southern transition. But the models blew along 70 Models definitely overcooked this a bit...always liked the lower end with this one given the lack of a well developed shortwave/mid-level system. If it weren't for the frontogenesis and possible CSI enhancement this would have been really lame to non-existent. And unfortunately the bands were pretty transient so the higher amounts didn't pan out in most places.
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Post by bdgwx on Dec 15, 2019 18:01:23 GMT -6
2.3" in Harvester
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Post by showtime - Marissa on Dec 15, 2019 18:03:41 GMT -6
At least you had some snow lol..... It literally snowed here for maybe 15 minutes at a decent clip.....joking aside we are getting some light freezing rain though now If you drive about 2 miles south of town, there's nothing. Rain and 30-ish. Glaze on windshields and elevated surfaces in Marissa area. Roads are just wet right now. Yea I’m sitting at 30 right now..... a degree or two either way will make a huge difference tonight
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Post by Chris Higgins on Dec 15, 2019 18:05:48 GMT -6
I have a completely opposite opinion of the model performance in the last 48 hours. As overall guidance goes...they did an excellent job across the board guiding us to a plausable solution. They depicted mesoscale banding which a few years ago would have been unheard of. They placed those bands within tens of miles of where they would form. They depicted quite accurately the razor thin margin for error on the south end of the precip. All of this gave meteorologists a lot to work with when in terms of GUIDANCE...so that we could do the human part...and come up with a pretty accurate and representative forecast. In short, they did their job! Did they waffle too much to the south 24 hours before the storm??? Sure.. they waffle all the time. But they were trying resolve a mesoscale band the width of STL county. The fact it was depicted at all...with such a strong signal...is pretty stellar. I drove through the 2nd band...and that was some of the most intense snow I have seen since March 2008.
I think we sometimes need to do a gut check and remember these models are not perfect. If they were you wouldn't need meteorologists. The skill of the meteorologists is tonwade through the waffling models and see the big picture through some of the noise. The best forecasts are not knee jerk reactions to every model twist and turn. The best forecasts come from science, experience and understanding model gudiance and its limitations...its common errors, etc.
I know some folks think anything but a perfect model forecast is a complete failure. I think the failure comes from not recognizing what the models can and cannot do... and placing too lofty an expectation on them.
On to phase 2.
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Post by goosetalk - Troy, MO on Dec 15, 2019 18:17:58 GMT -6
Looks like 4” in Wright City after some compaction. 5 in the grass.
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