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Post by demerson- Fletcher MO on May 20, 2021 15:05:42 GMT -6
We just bought this house last October. It sat empty for three years. Some one stole the pump and filter in that time. I have absolutely no knowledge of pools so we wanted to have someone come out and take a look and get it all ready for use. The issue is every place I’ve talked to said they are booked until august or they won’t make it till next spring. I’m sure we messed up waiting until May to have it looked at but we were really looking forward to swimming this summer Yeah we are having issues with fencing this yr from Lowes. We were told about 5 weeks until they got our fence supplies and then install. So we were looking at sometime in June. Now they told us they won't get the fencing in until end of July. So now we are looking at late Summer for install maybe. Ugh. They said this is because of covid which has delayed their manufacturing. We get all that, but the sales guy didn't tell us that. Talk about falling for the 5 week crap. We were also wanting to put in a pool this yr. But can't until we get a fence due to our HOA subdivision rules. Seems to be a lot of shortages going on right now. Walmart is limiting pool chlorine to two per customer now. Managed to get someone to come out this weekend and look at the pool. Hopefully he can get the job done
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on May 20, 2021 18:52:24 GMT -6
We just bought this house last October. It sat empty for three years. Some one stole the pump and filter in that time. I have absolutely no knowledge of pools so we wanted to have someone come out and take a look and get it all ready for use. The issue is every place I’ve talked to said they are booked until august or they won’t make it till next spring. I’m sure we messed up waiting until May to have it looked at but we were really looking forward to swimming this summer Yeah we are having issues with fencing this yr from Lowes. We were told about 5 weeks until they got our fence supplies and then install. So we were looking at sometime in June. Now they told us they won't get the fencing in until end of July. So now we are looking at late Summer for install maybe. Ugh. They said this is because of covid which has delayed their manufacturing. We get all that, but the sales guy didn't tell us that. Talk about falling for the 5 week crap. We were also wanting to put in a pool this yr. But can't until we get a fence due to our HOA subdivision rules. A very common saga this year for construction supplies. The prices are through the roof if you can get the materials at all. A story I saw out of Salt Lake City said a homebuilder was canceling sales contracts because they can't build the house for the contracted price. That would be a gut punch if you had your heart set on moving in to a brand new house and was just waiting for it to be built.
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Post by Jeffmw on May 20, 2021 21:18:00 GMT -6
You know it’s almost Summer when it stays in the 70s overnight.
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Post by Lovableweatherguy TROY,MO on May 21, 2021 2:12:19 GMT -6
And Dave posts his Summer Forecast! 🙃🔥😫
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Post by bdgwx on May 21, 2021 10:55:04 GMT -6
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Post by Lovableweatherguy TROY,MO on May 21, 2021 11:34:04 GMT -6
Very nice write up/article. Such a tragic day in Joplin.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on May 21, 2021 13:21:15 GMT -6
A few popcorn cells blowing up along the differential heating zone just west of the metro.
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Post by jeffcobeeman on May 21, 2021 15:25:42 GMT -6
Any idea how much rain is falling out around Rolla in that line? Looks like it's been training over that same area all day. Was going to head down that way to fish the Gasconade this weekend. Now I'm kinda wondering if it's worth it.
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Post by Snowman99 on May 21, 2021 16:31:24 GMT -6
looks like it's been mostly light to mod rain. I see totals mostly less than an inch out of it.
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Post by ajd446 on May 21, 2021 16:34:24 GMT -6
I am at the lake and we had 1.77 today. Last little bit moving through now. We were under heavy down pours for several hours. Very tropical type showers. The feeder creeks are flowing.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on May 21, 2021 21:00:07 GMT -6
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Post by bdgwx on May 22, 2021 7:13:59 GMT -6
Subtropical Storm Ana has formed in the Atlantic.
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Post by bdgwx on May 22, 2021 9:30:08 GMT -6
I'm seeing some hints of severe weather chances later in the week.
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Post by Snowman99 on May 22, 2021 9:54:38 GMT -6
Funny how many were calling for a huge history making severe season. It is history making for the opposite reason. lol. Didn't hypemaster Reed Timmer say it was going to be an insane year?
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Post by jmg378s on May 22, 2021 10:06:00 GMT -6
Yeah...but just about everybody was calling for a busy year for severe storms. I think the La Nina correlation was always a bit loose, but I don't think anybody saw the slowest year amongst a decade of slow years coming...
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Post by jmg378s on May 22, 2021 10:09:30 GMT -6
On the hand, the Atlantic has been ripping out monster storms like crazy the last several years. The active forecast this year, unfortunately, will be probably pan out.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on May 22, 2021 10:55:04 GMT -6
June seems to be shaping up to be a very wet and noisy month. Also looking like normal to slight below normal Temps. Not buying Dave's 2012-like forecast especially July/August, least not yet. If June fails to produce then things could get rough down the road drought and heat-wise.
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Post by cozpregon on May 22, 2021 13:09:22 GMT -6
Have to agree... if we don't get rain- drought chances do increase.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on May 22, 2021 13:57:36 GMT -6
June seems to be shaping up to be a very wet and noisy month. Also looking like normal to slight below normal Temps. Not buying Dave's 2012-like forecast especially July/August, least not yet. If June fails to produce then things could get rough down the road drought and heat-wise. How is a near-average June and near/slightly above average July with high humidity "2012 like"?
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Post by Snowstorm920 on May 22, 2021 14:46:32 GMT -6
Have to agree... if we don't get rain- drought chances do increase. I’m going to need to see the peer reviewed articles that back this up
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Post by cozpregon on May 22, 2021 19:04:03 GMT -6
Read a good article in the Sahara Times about it
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Post by bdgwx on May 22, 2021 20:28:43 GMT -6
Since there is a little gest vibe going on tonight I thought I'd share something with you all. The other day my wife said it felt thick and soupy outside with all the humidity. To her great annoyance I explained how "thick and soupy" was technically inappropriate to analogize the humidity. The reason is because Avogadro's Law states there is an equal number of gas molecules in a volume regardless of gas species. The thing is O2 and N2 have molecular weights of 32 and 28 respectively. But H2O is only 18. That means for every 1 molecule increase in H2O the molecular weight of the volume drops by 14 or 10 respectively depending on whether an O2 or N2 molecule got displaced. So the air is actually thinner all other things being equal. So really it is technically more appropriate to say it feels thin and watered down when its humid outside or thick and soupy if its a 2012 style drought. One thing the good wife pointed out was that technically and socially appropriate don't always line up and that's ok especially if you're not ready to fly the nerd flag. I couldn't argue with that.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on May 22, 2021 22:39:57 GMT -6
Since there is a little gest vibe going on tonight I thought I'd share something with you all. The other day my wife said it felt thick and soupy outside with all the humidity. To her great annoyance I explained how "thick and soupy" was technically inappropriate to analogize the humidity. The reason is because Avogadro's Law states there is an equal number of gas molecules in a volume regardless of gas species. The thing is O2 and N2 have molecular weights of 32 and 28 respectively. But H2O is only 18. That means for every 1 molecule increase in H2O the molecular weight of the volume drops by 14 or 10 respectively depending on whether an O2 or N2 molecule got displaced. So the air is actually thinner all other things being equal. So really it is technically more appropriate to say it feels thin and watered down when its humid outside or thick and soupy if its a 2012 style drought. One thing the good wife pointed out was that technically and socially appropriate don't always line up and that's ok especially if you're not ready to fly the nerd flag. I couldn't argue with that. During baseball games I always hear people say that humidity is a negative factor when it comes to how far a ball will travel after leaving the bat. Many people think dry air allows the ball the travel further but like you just stated humid air is actually less dense so it allows the ball to travel further. So if you want dingers kids root for hot and humid weather.
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Post by bdgwx on May 23, 2021 6:42:54 GMT -6
Keep an eye on Thursday for MCS potential. There may be some tornado potential mixed in somewhere.
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Post by jmg378s on May 23, 2021 6:53:22 GMT -6
And in case anyone was wondering, the concept of humid air being less dense than dry air (all else being equal) is why the "lifted parcel" line on forecast soundings from say the College of DuPage or Pivotal Weather sites starts at a warmer temperature. This warmer temp is called the virtual temperature and accounts for the higher bouyancy of moist air. With COD site it actually shows you the virtual temp (red dashed line). Another way to think of virtual temperature is if you want the same volume of dry air to be just as bouyant as moist air then the temperature needs to be warmer [some boring explanation about ideal gas low blah blah blah].
This forum really needs some interesting weather to talk about...
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on May 23, 2021 7:44:05 GMT -6
June seems to be shaping up to be a very wet and noisy month. Also looking like normal to slight below normal Temps. Not buying Dave's 2012-like forecast especially July/August, least not yet. If June fails to produce then things could get rough down the road drought and heat-wise. huh? I read his forecast, and I saw no mention of 2012. I didn't even think 2012 based on his forecast if he implied it. Maybe I need to go back and re-read it. I must be getting forgetful in my old age.
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on May 23, 2021 7:57:16 GMT -6
Since there is a little gest vibe going on tonight I thought I'd share something with you all. The other day my wife said it felt thick and soupy outside with all the humidity. To her great annoyance I explained how "thick and soupy" was technically inappropriate to analogize the humidity. The reason is because Avogadro's Law states there is an equal number of gas molecules in a volume regardless of gas species. The thing is O2 and N2 have molecular weights of 32 and 28 respectively. But H2O is only 18. That means for every 1 molecule increase in H2O the molecular weight of the volume drops by 14 or 10 respectively depending on whether an O2 or N2 molecule got displaced. So the air is actually thinner all other things being equal. So really it is technically more appropriate to say it feels thin and watered down when its humid outside or thick and soupy if its a 2012 style drought. One thing the good wife pointed out was that technically and socially appropriate don't always line up and that's ok especially if you're not ready to fly the nerd flag. I couldn't argue with that. During baseball games I always hear people say that humidity is a negative factor when it comes to how far a ball will travel after leaving the bat. Many people think dry air allows the ball the travel further but like you just stated humid air is actually less dense so it allows the ball to travel further. So if you want dingers kids root for hot and humid weather. I'm wondering if stats back that up. Thinking the moisture content on a baseball may prevent it from traveling further. If nothing else, perspiration from the pitcher maybe translating to the baseball. Slightly different but same...cross country coach many years ago (I'll say 40 plus) couldn't understand why I was winded on a cold day. Of course he was a chemistry teacher. He offered up the explanation that cold air was denser, so O2 was easier to come by. Cross Country coaches will say runners struggle because of what is going on in their head, so at the time, it was a pretty good sell job. Might have helped me that day, but I'd take running in 60 degree weather over running in 40 degree weather any time.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on May 23, 2021 8:55:44 GMT -6
More air resistance with colder temperatures...
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Post by Snowstorm920 on May 23, 2021 22:09:06 GMT -6
Keep an eye on Thursday for MCS potential. There may be some tornado potential mixed in somewhere. Looking pretty interesting
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Post by Snowstorm920 on May 24, 2021 9:07:04 GMT -6
The NAM certainly catches your attention for Thursday around here. An MCS dropping in from the north with this environment ahead of it
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