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Post by Snowstorm920 on Jan 7, 2024 15:33:04 GMT -6
From the afternoon AFD regarding the late week system:
“As far as precipitation type and amounts, there remains considerably more uncertainty on that as it will depend on how the wave evolves and how much warm/cold air gets pulled into it. At the moment it does seem like a primarily rain or snow situation, but we can`t quite rule out other precipitation types just yet. With our area likely to be on the north side of this wave, we`ll be more likely to see the wintry end of it. From the 00Z ensemble data up to 50 percent of members now show at least 1 inch of snow through the center of our forecast area, a sign of the confidence that we`ll be on the cold and likely snowy side of the system. On the more extreme side, worst case scenario, this could be a substantial snowfall event with several inches falling. There is more cold air in the vicinity to work with than there is with the prior storm, aiding both in maintaining snow as the precipitation type as well as setting up potentially better frontal forcing for precipitation. Ultimately, though, it`s still too early with too much uncertainty to advertise this in its most extreme form. However, we will begin messaging the potential for another wintry weather episode at the end of this week.“
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bfsmith81
Wishcaster
Edwardsville, IL
Posts: 150
Snowfall Events: Winter of 2023-2024:
01/05/24-1/06/24: 2.5" (Melted almost immediately)
01/12/24-1/13/24: 0.25"
01/15/24: 0.75"
01/18/24-01/19/24: 0.5"
02/16/24: 4.25"
Winter of 2023-2024 Total So Far: 8.25"
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Post by bfsmith81 on Jan 7, 2024 15:43:14 GMT -6
12z euro is north with the Friday storm True, but we're still pretty far out plenty can change. Plus while it brings the Friday storm further north it still has a powerhouse storm for us a few days later on Wed the 17th, with temperatures in the teens and dumps over a foot of snow in the metro. One of these will pan out for us, keep hope alive!
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Post by cozpregon on Jan 7, 2024 15:44:41 GMT -6
2 more years
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Post by Lovableweatherguy TROY,MO on Jan 7, 2024 15:46:43 GMT -6
No doubt the EPS is more amped up than the GEFS The mean low track is still SE of STL and there are a significant number of sub 980 members in there The next frame has a mean low of 985 sitting in Indiana Where do i find that map oon Pivotal 920?
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Jan 7, 2024 15:59:02 GMT -6
Under EPS, it’s “MSLP (members)” in the surface and precipitation category
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Post by Snowman99 on Jan 7, 2024 16:08:10 GMT -6
18z gfs has a little wave Thursday night that rains then the main storm misses south Friday. 18z icon came south for decent snow on friday
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Jan 7, 2024 16:09:06 GMT -6
18z gfs is too far south for Friday.
Safe to say we are in for a lot of movement until Tuesday’s storm moves out.
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Post by Lovableweatherguy TROY,MO on Jan 7, 2024 16:11:28 GMT -6
Under EPS, it’s “MSLP (members)” in the surface and precipitation category Thanks, thought I looked there and didn't see it. But then realized I clicked the EPS WEEKLIES by accident. Lol
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Post by Lovableweatherguy TROY,MO on Jan 7, 2024 16:14:21 GMT -6
I would hope south is good on that. Because I can totally see it coming north the next few days. And lining up close to where storm #1 left its mark and to the south. Hoping Chris's explanation of the storm track following its predecessor southern line comes in to play.
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Post by chowderhead54 on Jan 7, 2024 16:55:51 GMT -6
I would hope south is good on that. Because I can totally see it coming north the next few days. And lining up close to where storm #1 left its mark and to the south. Hoping Chris's explanation of the storm track following its predecessor southern line comes in to play.
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Post by chowderhead54 on Jan 7, 2024 16:59:59 GMT -6
Interestingly I believe the Friday energy is the one to hit the PNW on mon pm and Tue...I lived on Mt. Hood for 13 yrs..well foothills not on it lol..I digress the point they have Blizzard warnings hoisted for the Cascades of Washington and Oregon..that's heavy duty up that way. They see a lot of Snow but Blizzard warnings happen every few years..so if that's the energy coming in maybe a good sign..nonetheless, Arctic Air and lots of energy in the atmosphere the next couple weeks..won't be 😴.
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Post by Tilawn on Jan 7, 2024 19:47:14 GMT -6
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Post by Lovableweatherguy TROY,MO on Jan 7, 2024 20:45:38 GMT -6
Taking a quick look at the 00z 3k NAM.
Looks to bring the rain snow line a bit further south into the northern counties. So a nudge south. Doesn't really mean too much. As the whole system is still north of where we want it.
The highly intelligent weather junkies can get a better look and tell us more.
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Post by showtime - Marissa on Jan 7, 2024 21:02:55 GMT -6
Did anyone else happen to see a comet or meteor about 20 minutes ago ? Coolest thing I have ever seen in the sky…. It had a fire trail behind it … just incredible!
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Post by RyanD on Jan 7, 2024 21:18:58 GMT -6
Did anyone else happen to see a comet or meteor about 20 minutes ago ? Coolest thing I have ever seen in the sky…. It had a fire trail behind it … just incredible! If it was a comet then we are in trouble
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Post by showtime - Marissa on Jan 7, 2024 21:25:36 GMT -6
Did anyone else happen to see a comet or meteor about 20 minutes ago ? Coolest thing I have ever seen in the sky…. It had a fire trail behind it … just incredible! If it was a comet then we are in trouble Yea I thought about that after I posted that lol …..
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Post by ndolan387 on Jan 7, 2024 21:33:10 GMT -6
Hopefully the Fri/Sat system trends become more encouraging.
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Jan 7, 2024 21:43:39 GMT -6
Hopefully the Fri/Sat system trends become more encouraging. 00z Icon is good for a 4-8 inch type event for the metro on Friday. Actually has a narrow enhanced band where 12+ would be possible. Pretty nice run
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Post by Chris Higgins on Jan 7, 2024 21:54:10 GMT -6
Looking at current data and new model trends, I may be a little bit too generous on the southern edge... but not enough to make any changes at this time. I'll keep looking through the data and make a final call before I hit the sack for the night.
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Jan 7, 2024 22:00:54 GMT -6
Looking at current data and new model trends, I may be a little bit too generous on the southern edge... but not enough to make any changes at this time. I'll keep looking through the data and make a final call before I hit the sack for the night. Pretty notable gap between the Canadian (ggem and rgem) and American models (gfs and nam). Ggem and rgem hit the northern counties hard.
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Jan 7, 2024 22:05:22 GMT -6
00z gfs has a blizzard for the central and eastern viewing area on Friday.
00z ggem similar conceptually if not quite as aggressive.
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Post by chowderhead54 on Jan 7, 2024 22:06:02 GMT -6
00z gfs has a blizzard for the central and eastern viewing area on Friday
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Post by chowderhead54 on Jan 7, 2024 22:06:56 GMT -6
There she blows!! Damn GFS goes full on!! Icon good as well. Maybe that PAC NW energy is in play??
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Jan 7, 2024 22:07:41 GMT -6
00z gfs actually looks a lot like the “Cleveland Super Bomb” just a little bit further west
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Post by chowderhead54 on Jan 7, 2024 22:08:41 GMT -6
Temp down to 8 at 12z Sat..from 46 12 hrs earlier
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Post by RyanD on Jan 7, 2024 22:10:09 GMT -6
Temp down to 8 at 12z Sat..from 46 12 hrs earlier Why do you keep replying with empty replies and then you post a reply in the next comment? Not a big deal but it does it every time you reply to a comment
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Post by bdgwx on Jan 7, 2024 22:10:53 GMT -6
00z gfs actually looks a lot like the “Cleveland Super Bomb” just a little bit further west I was literally getting ready to post this. The Cleveland Superbomb got down to 958 mb. The 963 mb that the GFS shows gets awfully close.
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Post by chowderhead54 on Jan 7, 2024 22:13:34 GMT -6
Temp down to 8 at 12z Sat..from 46 12 hrs earlier Why do you keep replying with empty replies and then you post a reply in the next comment? Not a big deal but it does it every time you reply to a comment
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Jan 7, 2024 22:13:37 GMT -6
00z gfs actually looks a lot like the “Cleveland Super Bomb” just a little bit further west I was literally getting ready to post this. The Cleveland Superbomb got down to 958 mb. The 963 mb that the GFS shows gets awfully close. [b I see a 961 mb reading at hour 138, so close. I’ll bet we see some ensembles go sub 960. 18z EPS had some crazy members too.
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Post by bdgwx on Jan 7, 2024 22:13:38 GMT -6
The jet coupling proverbially (or maybe literally) vacuum cleaner's the surface layer. If we could only get that jet coupling to get its act together a bit sooner...
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