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Post by Snowstorm920 on May 27, 2024 16:33:22 GMT -6
Went from a picture perfect day to dark and turbulent skies in a hurry
Never trust the NW flow
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Post by Chris Higgins on May 27, 2024 17:42:15 GMT -6
Hey experts - I made a drive down Pottle in South County and noticed a lot of what appeared to be tornado damage. This street is > 86 yards (half of the 172 width they posted) away from the track the NWS posted for the Oakville tornado. Do you think that damage is related? Which way were the downed trees pointing? It's possible it was inflow jet or as Brtn mentioned... RFD or FFD related. Hard to know without putting eyeballs on it myself. |
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Post by John G -west belleville on May 27, 2024 18:29:15 GMT -6
Hey experts - I made a drive down Pottle in South County and noticed a lot of what appeared to be tornado damage. This street is > 86 yards (half of the 172 width they posted) away from the track the NWS posted for the Oakville tornado. Do you think that damage is related? Which way were the downed trees pointing? It's possible it was inflow jet or as Brtn mentioned... RFD or FFD related. Hard to know without putting eyeballs on it myself. Radar loop. South county tornado imgur.com/gallery/uITKj2B |
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Post by mchafin on May 27, 2024 20:10:34 GMT -6
Which way were the downed trees pointing? It's possible it was inflow jet or as Brtn mentioned... RFD or FFD related. Hard to know without putting eyeballs on it myself. Radar loop. South county tornado imgur.com/gallery/uITKj2BThe trees were pointing NE it seems. |
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Post by ilnois on May 27, 2024 20:36:03 GMT -6
I’m just on the south side of that track west of Rte 3 in Columbia IL. Assuming my tree damage is RFD? |
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Post by Stormfan on May 28, 2024 7:30:59 GMT -6
Chris.. pm sent
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Post by Stormfan on May 28, 2024 9:24:51 GMT -6
This is confusing to me. There was so much more damage than they listed. Car windows blown out, several carports collapsed, guttering and some siding pulled off, roof damage on many homes. Definitely more than tree damage and one carport. |
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Post by John G -west belleville on May 28, 2024 9:39:27 GMT -6
This is confusing to me. There was so much more damage than they listed. Car windows blown out, several carports collapsed, guttering and some siding pulled off, roof damage on many homes. Definitely more than tree damage and one carport. Tornado damage is distinct from wind damage. There was rear flank downdraft winds near the tornado |
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Post by dschreib on May 28, 2024 10:02:34 GMT -6
EF-1 rating pretty much covers everything listed. Looks like they just didn't go into great detail in the report.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on May 28, 2024 11:15:56 GMT -6
This should be a nearly completed storm report map from Sunday with NWS surveys wrapping up. An active day would be an understatement.  |
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Post by Stormfan on May 28, 2024 11:24:36 GMT -6
EF-1 rating pretty much covers everything listed. Looks like they just didn't go into great detail in the report.
Thank you! I appreciate the info. I wasn't questioning the rating , because I trust greater minds than mine to figure that out. Was more confused about the statement that there was only one carport that was damaged, and a shed. But I do really appreciate the reminder about the ratings, and I think my neighbor will too. Thanks for taking the time to answer. And I'm sure most of you have heard this before, but following storms, seeing nature's fury off in the far distance over farm fields is vastly different from seeing a tornado pop over your friends' and neighbors' houses. |
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Post by dschreib on May 28, 2024 12:51:22 GMT -6
EF-1 rating pretty much covers everything listed. Looks like they just didn't go into great detail in the report.
Thank you! I appreciate the info. I wasn't questioning the rating , because I trust greater minds than mine to figure that out. Was more confused about the statement that there was only one carport that was damaged, and a shed. But I do really appreciate the reminder about the ratings, and I think my neighbor will too. Thanks for taking the time to answer. And I'm sure most of you have heard this before, but following storms, seeing nature's fury off in the far distance over farm fields is vastly different from seeing a tornado pop over your friends' and neighbors' houses. Agreed--and it was really for everyone's reference. It's really a fluid process, with each office adding countless data points every year to help compare ground data to what they've seen on radar. NWS Paducah had a really good write-up on that, I think yesterday.
EDIT--and I removed the graphic from your reply...just for the sake of saving page space.
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Post by mchafin on May 28, 2024 14:28:39 GMT -6
This is confusing to me. There was so much more damage than they listed. Car windows blown out, several carports collapsed, guttering and some siding pulled off, roof damage on many homes. Definitely more than tree damage and one carport. Back in the day, they used to do those high-resolution maps with markers for where damage was surveyed and pictures to show it. Not sure why that isn’t done anymore, but I thought those pieces of data were important for 1) understanding what occurred and 2) being good learning tools to help identify straight-line wind damage compared to tornadic damage. |
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Post by bdgwx on May 28, 2024 15:44:15 GMT -6
The cicadas are everywhere in my yard now.
They are loud.
My dogs love eating them. They've made a sport of it.
Question...is their cadence synchronized all over the region?
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Post by sgdragons on May 28, 2024 17:00:54 GMT -6
We’re past the peek of the cicadas. Noticing less and less. Our chickens sure do love chasing the low flying ones!
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on May 28, 2024 17:12:24 GMT -6
Just had a couple heavy downpours...it just keeps raining! The outflow ahead of those cells was pretty strong...probably 40mph+
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Post by dschreib on May 28, 2024 20:49:30 GMT -6
This is confusing to me. There was so much more damage than they listed. Car windows blown out, several carports collapsed, guttering and some siding pulled off, roof damage on many homes. Definitely more than tree damage and one carport. Back in the day, they used to do those high-resolution maps with markers for where damage was surveyed and pictures to show it. Not sure why that isn’t done anymore, but I thought those pieces of data were important for 1) understanding what occurred and 2) being good learning tools to help identify straight-line wind damage compared to tornadic damage. They'll do that (at least to some degree) when they put together an event summary on the website.
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Post by John G -west belleville on May 29, 2024 6:54:18 GMT -6
Back in the day, they used to do those high-resolution maps with markers for where damage was surveyed and pictures to show it. Not sure why that isn’t done anymore, but I thought those pieces of data were important for 1) understanding what occurred and 2) being good learning tools to help identify straight-line wind damage compared to tornadic damage. They'll do that (at least to some degree) when they put together an event summary on the website.
I've seen a GIS map before that the track was a polygon showing width |
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Post by bgff on May 29, 2024 8:19:02 GMT -6
They'll do that (at least to some degree) when they put together an event summary on the website.
I've seen a GIS map before that the track was a polygon showing width Here is the link to the GIS tornado map and GIS damage points. |
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Post by dschreib on May 29, 2024 10:27:53 GMT -6
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Post by dgl1004-Moberly, MO on May 29, 2024 10:29:52 GMT -6
It has been pretty nice being able to turn the AC off and open up the windows this week.
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Post by Chris Higgins on May 29, 2024 12:27:26 GMT -6
This is confusing to me. There was so much more damage than they listed. Car windows blown out, several carports collapsed, guttering and some siding pulled off, roof damage on many homes. Definitely more than tree damage and one carport. There are plenty of datapoints in the survey, but twitter summary is limited by character count. Im sure the final report has all that stuff in it. Have to remember these surveys were all done on Memorial Day... so they also may have been done a little faster than normal. |
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Post by Jeffmw on May 29, 2024 21:05:26 GMT -6
Just around 160 days it will be firepit weather.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on May 30, 2024 4:53:02 GMT -6
Just around 160 days it will be firepit weather. It's fire pit weather right now! |
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Post by John G -west belleville on May 30, 2024 6:22:29 GMT -6
NWS in Texas used DVD sized hail as a descriptor earlier this week. The hail was over 5 inches.
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Post by dschreib on May 30, 2024 6:53:21 GMT -6
NWS in Texas used DVD sized hail as a descriptor earlier this week. The hail was over 5 inches. People still know what those are? |
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Post by ElburnDave on May 30, 2024 7:40:35 GMT -6
NWS in Texas used DVD sized hail as a descriptor earlier this week. The hail was over 5 inches. People still know what those are? I still have my Columbia House vinyl, Columbia House cassettes, AND CDs (not Columbia House). Come to think of it, I need to clean out the basement... |
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Post by John G -west belleville on May 30, 2024 8:48:42 GMT -6
NWS in Texas used DVD sized hail as a descriptor earlier this week. The hail was over 5 inches. People still know what those are? I'm pretty sure they received a report of the measurement from a chaser collecting hail stones and entered in 5 inch hail and DVD was the descriptor tag. It had never been used before. |
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Post by John G -west belleville on May 30, 2024 8:49:34 GMT -6
People still know what those are? I still have my Columbia House vinyl, Columbia House cassettes, AND CDs (not Columbia House). Come to think of it, I need to clean out the basement... And you now owe them 10k after interest. Never saw my mom as angry when that box of CDs showed up |
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Post by ElburnDave on May 30, 2024 10:39:25 GMT -6
I still have my Columbia House vinyl, Columbia House cassettes, AND CDs (not Columbia House). Come to think of it, I need to clean out the basement... And you now owe them 10k after interest. Never saw my mom as angry when that box of CDs showed up Nope, just need to order 3 more in the next three years... |
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