COSMOS

And this is why it won't get shown in science class rooms.  Parents want children to be great students, just not students of biology.  It's tough to teach because the ones telling our students to not believe it or to study it, know very little about it themselves.  I wonder if they would take antibiotics if the realised many of them developed through the study of bacterial evolution.

Ha ha...yes, exactly. A Fox station in Oklahoma cut out a section on evolution from last week's Cosmo's (they claimed "accident")...wonder if they cut the whole hour this week. Great show.

It's on the NatGeo channel, PBS, and elsewhere, but here is the online link I found: full episodes of Cosmos

Ok, since I knew this had a potential of spawning off into a huge debate (And I mean debate, not name calling and arguments), I wanted to move this out into a general area where those who don't want to look, can overlook it.  Being that I am a Christian, and also a student of Science, I have to find a balance between the two.  Look into the Bible to see how it can relate to the facts we have.  And where many will tell me I am just twisting the Word, to make it fit man, I feel that I am more "Relating" it, to transition on how the findings on earth can relate to the Bible.

Here is my bases on the whole Evolution theory Vs. Biblical teachings.  In the Bible it is taught that the earth and the heavens were created in 7 days.  The 7th being the day God rested.  It is also taught, that God's "Time" is not based on a clock or a measurement.  Kinda like your days off, they seem to fly by, but when at work, or something you don't want to do, the day goes on forever.

With that said, I believe God's measurement of a day could be a million (Just throwing a number out there, not a real measurement) years.  WE DON'T KNOW.  No where in the Bible, does it say that a day (in God's time) is 24 Hours, 60 minutes per hour.  That is Human's setting.  So God's measurement of time very well could be millions of years in 1 day.  Once again, I am just throwing a number out there.  So, in 7 days, in God's time, could have been 7 million years.

It also teaches there was a Garden of Eden.  Thinking about that, you think of a Garden that is full with very green and fruitful.  It was the best of the Best of the earth, and that was here Adam and Eve was.  Now, what was outside of the Garden?  No one knows.  There are parts of the Bible that hints to (And I am wording it in my terms, and not scripture), sounds outside the garden.  What was going on out there?  Why was that area outside the Garden the "Bad" part of the world.

Here is where I am going to get into trouble (Especially if my wife sees this..LOL), I believe that is where the earth was evolving.  I believe that is where the Dinosaurs were at.  And who is to say that God didn't have side projects?  Yes, humans were his Primary Project.  But to think that we were the ONLY thing he was creating, would be very closed minded.

Yes, I know that many Christians will want to banish me from the Christian community for thinking this way.  But no one can look to the night sky and think we are the only thing in the universe worthy of existence.  The Bible teaches everything is here for a reason (Yes, even those pests that you can not figure out why they are on the Earth.).  Hence everything in the universe is there for a reason.  I believe there is a reason why we have not made it past the moon.  God does not believe we are ready.  When God feels we are ready, and have evolved into the beings God want's, then God will provide us with the tools and resources needed to accomplish these tasks.  Will we ever live on another planet?  IDK.  Maybe God wants us to learn how to use the one we have.  Once that happens, God will allow us to move on to bigger and better things....

Just my 2 cents worth....

I have not got to watch last night's episode yet.  I have it DVRed.  I am going to watch it Wed night when Wife goes to bed.  She is not a fan of evolution and gets very uneasy listening to it.  So rather then debate about it, I will watch it after she goes to bed.  But what I have seen from the first episode, it was a very well, produced show.

And you know, I can see this in a way.  My day in school, evolution was taught as "Theory".  What was believed to have happened.  Now I will not dispute the facts, but i think some have issues as it being taught as "Facts" vs the "Theory" term.  Kinda like when I do a Karaoke show.  I call it an "Event", not a "Gig".  The term "Event" sounds like a fun time, vs. "Gig" which sounds like a grunge dirty band type of word.  Just my personal opinion. 

So I think it is not only what is taught, just the "Term" that is used.  When I was in school, my parents were just fine with it being taught.   Now there is so much debate, just on the "Term" alone.

Another thing (I was reading on the net about the reviews and the complaints) about the ratings, is Networks (For years) have manipulated them to go the way they want them to be.  I would like to see the 1/4 hour breakdown of both episodes.  The .2 could have been those who turned it off last week.  Like I said Networks have been doing it for years, and I don't see any changing, till they come out with a better way to track DVR and Net views.

I know a couple shows I used to watch on other networks, would use the lowest ratings of the 4 1/4 hour segments.  Just so they can say it was doing bad and cancel it.  When you actually combined the totals, the ratings were better then stated.  I know that network lost a lot of viewers because of it (Well, at least at that time.).

I'm more a trilobite gal myself but life is amazing no matter where you think it comes from or how it got there...

So they didn't make it.  I still find them fascinating creatures :-) 

You know, when I wrote that, I was waiting for a backlash of a lot of PPLE either coming after my views or trying to go after me for thinking this way (The Christians).  And I was ready and armed.  If needed to, I would pull out my bible (Well, I have it on my computer and can search).  But I was pleasantly surprised no one did.

One reason I wanted to make a separate category for this, is so there would not be an argument in the middle of the weather section.  But when I hit Enter on the keyboard, I was thinking to myself, "If 1 person gets what I am saying, then it would be worth it."  Guess you were that one person.  LOL

I have not seen the second installment of this show yet, but from what I read, they seem to really push the issue of evolution.  Many were outraged.  Others were outraged that the other PPLE were outraged.  It is amazing on what posts you read on FB.

I will watch it tomorrow night when the wife has gone to bed (She don't believe in the whole evolution thing).  But to give her credit, she would make fun of it, like I do when she watches an old Black and white movie.  I mean I have a 55" COLOR TV for a reason..  LOL

I evolve...  She likes to live in the past...

The views your posted are not very controversial to the majority of people - most people who consider themselves "religious" (Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, etc) believe that evolution by natural selection is completely compatible with their faith. It's only a very small, very vocal, minority who insist that their creation "beliefs" should be taught alongside as an equal alternate theory to scientific theory. The bible is not a science book.

I just love reading how all the believers who know enough science to believe in evolution find a way to make evolution fit their belief. It is creative to say the least. Maybe they are God in disguise.

Very cool. It is inspiring to see how passionate he is about his work.

People have been interpreting the bible for thousands of year.  The bible is the one book, that the Author is not around to tell us what the real meaning it.  You can ask several preachers the same question on the same scripture reading, and you will get a different explanation for it.  Sure, the main point may be the same point, but the explanation will be different.  There are only a few straight and forward points that are hardcore written in stone...  Literally.  Or written in RED.  After that, then most of the Bible can be interpreted however a person wants.  Who knows, maybe that is why God had the bible written the way it was, so many eyes can apply it to life and make humans better.  IDK, I didn't write it.

But there is enough information out there that humans can not deny there is a form of Evolution in the books.  Did we walk out of a puddle of mucky water?  Who knows what happened outside The Garden of Eden.  I will give you an example.  After Eve bit into the apple of knowledge, God sent them out of the Garden.  Told them "Be fruitful and multiply."  Now, how will they do that.  Sure, them two can have kids.  But what happens from there?  Sure the Bible teaches who Begot who.  But never said where these individuals came from.  So it leads to believe that there HAD to be other humans out there that the children "Got" with to create other Humans.  Otherwise, we would all be, well, I don't want to type the word, because I am sure it would be censored.  But, if there is no other humans out there, then the children would only have one option to "Multiply".  So that is why I believe there had to be something going on outside the Garden.


Point 2, when God was tired of the Sin on the earth, he told Noah to Build an Arc.  Get two of each animal, and his family.  He did, and the earth was flooded.  Wiping out what was left.  Now, that was on that Arc?  We don't know.  Mabey there was still some creature evolving on there.  That would be the next generation of humans.  No one knows. 

To say "find a way to make evolution fit their belief" is incorrect.  We are not "Making it fit".  We are explaining to those who have no clue of the Bible, why we believe that it could happen.

And by the post you put, I would have to say you have no bases to even start from.  You are basing on you lack of knowledge of what the scripture reads and is taught.

Also your last comment, goes against one of the 10 commandments...  Lets see if you can figure out which one...