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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Jan 30, 2019 12:36:09 GMT -6
I think the only thing we can say about next week at this point is that another strong arctic push will come through, and there will be a ton of southern energy to play with. I think there is a lot of potential there and still believe the setup as a whole favors ice at some point. A little snow this afternoon would be cool. I'm not sure I've ever seen it snow this cold. Truck temp still showed 2 degrees a few mins ago. i agree. While yesterdays models looked stormy, todays 12z looks like a better fit with existing pattern. Cant really get more detailed than ongoing nws forecasts. The 12z keeps us on the western edge of arctic refreshes which is a drier regime but fits with what weve seen so far. Of course it retrogrades that pattern in the fantasy ranges but we havent seen too much of that so im skeptical. Its just too early to pin down a specific item of interest rt now but you said it elegantly.
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Jan 30, 2019 12:37:28 GMT -6
The short term models have really backed off today with snow chances North of 64. We'll see. yeah im not in the least bit interested for today. Its all abt 44 and south imo.
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Post by STGOutdoors on Jan 30, 2019 12:46:02 GMT -6
I may squeeze out an inch tonight. I'd be cool with that.
Looking longer term...the EPO looks like it continues to tank even harder into the middle of Feb. Lots of winter to go yet.
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Post by ajd446 on Jan 30, 2019 12:47:17 GMT -6
Honestly radar out west looks like its north by 1 county of where it was supposed to start based on rap
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Post by ajd446 on Jan 30, 2019 12:48:13 GMT -6
Also -10.3 was the low at my house in st.peters. it's a Davis 6 ft off the ground. Unless it's got problems still. Currently it shows 3.5
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Post by bdgwx on Jan 30, 2019 13:15:29 GMT -6
Parts of the United States are colder than most of Antarctica right now. That might not be saying much because it's summer down there, but still...
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Post by STGOutdoors on Jan 30, 2019 13:16:07 GMT -6
Euro has no winter weather here next week, so who knows.
KC is reporting snow so that's a good sign for this evening.
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Post by tedrick65 on Jan 30, 2019 13:17:58 GMT -6
Pretty interesting Halo around the sun right now in the Creve Coeur area.
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Post by rb1108 on Jan 30, 2019 13:41:44 GMT -6
Was the snow total in the WWA increased? It says upto 2 inches. I kept seeing an inch or less earlier.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Jan 30, 2019 13:52:42 GMT -6
18Z NAM has shifted south a bit. Now just south of the metro.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Jan 30, 2019 14:02:36 GMT -6
Snow is being reported well north of St Joseph, Mo so that’s a good sign
I think almost everyone sees flakes fly
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Jan 30, 2019 14:15:23 GMT -6
Euro has no winter weather here next week, so who knows. KC is reporting snow so that's a good sign for this evening. Yeah i noticed a rather significant trend on the models which precludes winter wx for us especially middle of next week and even beyond...but as was alluded to, im not ready to bite on the warmer train.
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Jan 30, 2019 14:17:20 GMT -6
The clipper expressway from kc typically runs to my south.
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Post by RyanD on Jan 30, 2019 14:18:01 GMT -6
I'd love to squeeze out an inch of snow this evening. As for next week, who knows. It is going to get warm then cool down but as for precipitation it could be any thing. Gotta agree with those that are thinking ice as that seems to fit the pattern.
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Post by Tilawn on Jan 30, 2019 14:35:28 GMT -6
I am concerned about this afternoon's light snow being a bigger impact than it should be due to timing and temperature. If pavement warms just enough with traffic to melt any snow with the product they will be putting down, I think a refreeze overnight is a big concern. I know there is a chance at a "wintry mix" next week, but I don't hear much chatter about this afternoon's system with the high ratios. Quite honestly MODOT may not even put salt/chemical down other then bridges and overpasses. They usually just plow this type of event and then it sublimates in the overnight hours once travel slows and temp is so cold freeze dry fairly quickly.
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Post by ajd446 on Jan 30, 2019 14:50:35 GMT -6
I would say it's gonna snow. I don't know how it can snow with it slapping into the air that is mega dry but radar looks great and it is snowing in Columbia already. On abc17 webcams
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Post by STGOutdoors on Jan 30, 2019 14:53:24 GMT -6
I would say it's gonna snow. I don't know how it can snow with it slapping into the air that is mega dry but radar looks great and it is snowing in Columbia already. On abc17 webcams Yea, looking good: journalism.missouri.edu/jschool/webcam/
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Post by pbc12871 on Jan 30, 2019 14:53:29 GMT -6
Any of you ever get the feeling if everyone here lost their user names,avatars, bios, and all we were left with from now on were posts with no user info, we would still all know exactly who posted what?
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Post by Tilawn on Jan 30, 2019 14:57:06 GMT -6
Any of you ever get the feeling if everyone here lost their user names,avatars, bios, and all we were left with from now on were posts with no user info, we would still all know exactly who posted what? Tiniest flakes I’ve ever seen falling here now. RH 40% temp 7° not much wind to speak of at the moment
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Jan 30, 2019 14:58:31 GMT -6
I would say it's gonna snow. I don't know how it can snow with it slapping into the air that is mega dry but radar looks great and it is snowing in Columbia already. On abc17 webcams Very cold air can’t hold much water so it dosent take much precep to saturate it
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Post by landscaper on Jan 30, 2019 15:01:45 GMT -6
Ceilings are lowering pretty quickly, the STL NWS composite radar actually looks pretty good
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Post by sullivandave on Jan 30, 2019 15:10:02 GMT -6
Flurries at meramec state park
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Post by STGOutdoors on Jan 30, 2019 15:17:46 GMT -6
This will probably be a pretty narrow band but given the current observations I bet someone gets close to 2".
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Post by freezyfree on Jan 30, 2019 15:20:16 GMT -6
tiny flurries in Hillsboro
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Jan 30, 2019 15:28:37 GMT -6
Any idea what the stronger radar echoes are showing up east of Mascoutah and New Athens? Steam from a power plant solidifying in the cold maybe?
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Post by gonefishin - WashMO on Jan 30, 2019 15:31:05 GMT -6
Light snow in Pacific already. Enough to not be considered “flurries.” Even a few “snow snakes” on the roads.
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Post by sullivandave on Jan 30, 2019 15:31:42 GMT -6
Vehicles coated already.... nice....... maybe we're the lucky ones . ..lol
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Post by jkfriedmann on Jan 30, 2019 15:34:44 GMT -6
Well that escalated quickly. It was dry as could be when I went inside Walmart, I came out 20 minutes later and it’s snowing pretty good in Eureka. Small flakes, but cars are covering quickly.
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Post by maddogchief on Jan 30, 2019 15:36:43 GMT -6
Next week holds some promise, but we are going to need the cold air. The Euro not showing much though is a bit concerning.
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Post by RyanD on Jan 30, 2019 15:37:25 GMT -6
Any idea what the stronger radar echoes are showing up east of Mascoutah and New Athens? Steam from a power plant solidifying in the cold maybe? I noticed that too and first thought it was foul flying from Baldwin lake but that may actually be snow from the Baldwin Power plant stacks. It has 3 very large smoke stacks. It burns coal.
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