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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Feb 13, 2021 12:54:13 GMT -6
It just won't quit! You have to think snow production will be very efficient tomorrow into Monday when deeper lift and moisture advection gets going in this airmass. Dry air honestly seems like almost a non-issue with it being so cold...it has a much greater impact with borderline temps. Kind of reminds me of mountain snow. Just keeps producing snow, seemingly from nothing. I was thinking the same thing. 40:1 has to be near record for this region. |
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Feb 13, 2021 12:58:13 GMT -6
Don't look now, but the radar is filling in again, getting stronger...
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Post by landscaper on Feb 13, 2021 13:01:29 GMT -6
Don’t say that I just got back home after salting all morning. I need a break ! This snow piled up fast this morning, if this is how it will be tomorrow night it should be something pretty special, even if it’s only 3-5” it will be a neat snow. Treated Salt worked great today due to the low moisture content.
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Feb 13, 2021 13:06:32 GMT -6
Don’t say that I just got back home after salting all morning. I need a break ! This snow piled up fast this morning, if this is how it will be tomorrow night it should be something pretty special, even if it’s only 3-5” it will be a neat snow. Treated Salt worked great today due to the low moisture content. That is something I remember from that stretch of cold and snow in 1977. The fatigue of plow operators, including private ones, as well as fatigue on the equipment from lots of use in extreme cold. |
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Post by maddogchief on Feb 13, 2021 13:11:36 GMT -6
7.1 earthquake hit Japan bout 1 hour ago... That one had a thump |
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Post by maddogchief on Feb 13, 2021 13:17:27 GMT -6
euro is still se midweek. It has like 1 six hour period of snow here the next 5 days, whils parts of TX, AR, se MO and others get wave after wave. Infuriating. Euro will likely shift NW or at least north with end of next week. The SE ridge is supposed to gain some steam and with the cold air relaxing a bit as we go through the week I really see no reason for it to not. |
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Post by maddogchief on Feb 13, 2021 13:18:20 GMT -6
Probably an inch so far. It’s windy. Still surprised to see it snowing
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Post by amstilost on Feb 13, 2021 13:23:35 GMT -6
I gained .5" of snow. Flakes still falling and by the looks of radar should pick up some. 14* and cloudy but dripping water off of the outbuilding roof 7 miles west of De Soto. I think I will scrape the driveway before the next Kaboom occurs.  |
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mccarthb
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O'Fallon, MO - Outer Road near border of Dardenne Prarie
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Post by mccarthb on Feb 13, 2021 13:24:47 GMT -6
Can someone provide me the link to the NWS US map that provides Short/Long term Forecast Discussion, 7 day Zone Forecasts, Watches/Warnings, etc when clicking a specific area of the map? I can’t find it!
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mccarthb
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O'Fallon, MO - Outer Road near border of Dardenne Prarie
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Post by mccarthb on Feb 13, 2021 13:26:20 GMT -6
Can someone provide me the link to the NWS US map that provides Short/Long term Forecast Discussion, 7 day Zone Forecasts, Watches/Warnings, etc when clicking a specific area of the map? I can’t find it! I used to be able to type in Interactive Weather Information Network and it would be the first link on a google search. |
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Feb 13, 2021 13:29:23 GMT -6
Looks like the metro-east will get the heaviest of the PM blob working through now from Alton south.
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Post by Chris Higgins on Feb 13, 2021 13:30:15 GMT -6
It's not just the cold temps at the surface that determine LSR. Its more important what the temps are in the region of max lift up in the clouds. Ive seen snow at some pretty cold temps at the surface fluff out well... like today. But Ive seen same cold produce very poor LSR because of dry air and weak lift in the DGZ.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Feb 13, 2021 13:30:35 GMT -6
Also FYI Schnucks is busy... I can't 'imagine' why?  Have to go in later @ 4-10PM so things will be fun especially first half. |
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Feb 13, 2021 13:31:30 GMT -6
It's not just the cold temps at the surface that determine LSR. Its more important what the temps are in the region of max lift up in the clouds. Ive seen snow at some pretty cold temps at the surface fluff out well... like today. But Ive seen same cold produce very poor LSR because of dry air and weak lift in the DGZ. Any ideas what's driving today's snow chances and why it seems to keep flaring up after it seems it's going to die down? |
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Post by amstilost on Feb 13, 2021 13:34:40 GMT -6
SREF Plumes took a small jump upward at 15z vs. 9z run.....from .28" to .33" or so. The end of the run at 06z 2/17 is on the rise also. Snowfall went from 4.25" to just under 5". Better than the 'other' way.
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Post by amstilost on Feb 13, 2021 13:38:18 GMT -6
Can someone provide me the link to the NWS US map that provides Short/Long term Forecast Discussion, 7 day Zone Forecasts, Watches/Warnings, etc when clicking a specific area of the map? I can’t find it! Is this what you are referring to?? National Forecast Maps |
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Post by Chris Higgins on Feb 13, 2021 13:40:47 GMT -6
It's not just the cold temps at the surface that determine LSR. Its more important what the temps are in the region of max lift up in the clouds. Ive seen snow at some pretty cold temps at the surface fluff out well... like today. But Ive seen same cold produce very poor LSR because of dry air and weak lift in the DGZ. Any ideas what's driving today's snow chances and why it seems to keep flaring up after it seems it's going to die down? Low level frontogenesis and slight warm air advection aloft. Temps are perfect for good flakes in the lowest 5k from what I have seen. So flakes are literally forming just over our heads. |
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mccarthb
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O'Fallon, MO - Outer Road near border of Dardenne Prarie
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Post by mccarthb on Feb 13, 2021 13:45:04 GMT -6
Can someone provide me the link to the NWS US map that provides Short/Long term Forecast Discussion, 7 day Zone Forecasts, Watches/Warnings, etc when clicking a specific area of the map? I can’t find it! Is this what you are referring to?? National Forecast Maps Maybe. Do I just click into the map at the top? There used to be one enlarged map to click region and then provided Zone Forecasts, Forecast Discussion, etc. Did that go away? |
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Arnold MO 1/2 mile from the Meramec Mississippi confluence
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Post by luvhockey on Feb 13, 2021 13:46:10 GMT -6
First... Appologies to addj.. I jumped to quickly on him and I was wrong to do so. It appears based on recent reports amounts of around 1 are being reported... so you are in line. It has been a rough couple of days here and I snapped a bit. Please accept my humble appologies. Also... never had time to post my maps yesterday... but from what I had time to look at this AM... 3 to 6 is still a good cover for most of the area... down southeast... 6 to 8 looks better than 6 to 10. I hope things make a better turn and I hope your coworker is back from her mishap soon. It takes a man of integrity to admit when he’s wrong and apologize. We know you have it in spades and we knew something was weighing on you. Take care. |
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Post by ndolan387 on Feb 13, 2021 13:47:53 GMT -6
I know it's just one run, but that 250mb jet is so pretty. And on this run we are in the left exit region of this screaming 250mb jet for a bit...the recipe for upper level divergence. Great lift. The potential energy level w/ the Wed/Thurs mid latitude cyclone is amazing for deformation snow IF we get the right phase.  |
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mccarthb
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O'Fallon, MO - Outer Road near border of Dardenne Prarie
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Post by mccarthb on Feb 13, 2021 13:49:14 GMT -6
Maybe. Do I just click into the map at the top? There used to be one enlarged map to click region and then provided Zone Forecasts, Forecast Discussion, etc. Did that go away? I can only find the Forecast Discussion. I used to be able to see the 7 day zone forecast for specific areas of the country in this format.  |
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Post by ajd446 on Feb 13, 2021 13:51:11 GMT -6
I wonder how cold it will get tonightbas columbia is now clear. If we are clear a good part of the night i think the record of -2 is doable
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mccarthb
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O'Fallon, MO - Outer Road near border of Dardenne Prarie
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Post by mccarthb on Feb 13, 2021 13:52:17 GMT -6
Maybe. Do I just click into the map at the top? There used to be one enlarged map to click region and then provided Zone Forecasts, Forecast Discussion, etc. Did that go away? I can only find the Forecast Discussion. I used to be able to see the 7 day zone forecast for specific areas of the country in this format. Am I lost? Maybe we should exchange our alias’ lol |
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Post by amstilost on Feb 13, 2021 13:54:16 GMT -6
Maybe. Do I just click into the map at the top? There used to be one enlarged map to click region and then provided Zone Forecasts, Forecast Discussion, etc. Did that go away? I can only find the Forecast Discussion. I used to be able to see the 7 day zone forecast for specific areas of the country in this format. This is the US map of NWS Offices. You can click individual NWS Offices. Try This |
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twocat
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North St. Peters off Cave Springs
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Post by twocat on Feb 13, 2021 13:56:09 GMT -6
I gained .5" of snow. Flakes still falling and by the looks of radar should pick up some. 14* and cloudy but dripping water off of the outbuilding roof 7 miles west of De Soto. I think I will scrape the driveway before the next Kaboom occurs. The better half used the leaf blower this morning. Worked perfectly! The Davis on the roof in North St. Pete was keeping an eye out. |
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Post by amstilost on Feb 13, 2021 13:58:41 GMT -6
Nope, that is my name, believe me it fits, and I have had it since 1995. Not just on here.
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Post by bdgwx on Feb 13, 2021 14:01:18 GMT -6
As of right now my best guess at the airport is 2-5".
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Post by amstilost on Feb 13, 2021 14:02:06 GMT -6
I gained .5" of snow. Flakes still falling and by the looks of radar should pick up some. 14* and cloudy but dripping water off of the outbuilding roof 7 miles west of De Soto. I think I will scrape the driveway before the next Kaboom occurs. The better half used the leaf blower this morning. Worked perfectly! The Davis on the roof in North St. Pete was keeping an eye out. Yes, leaf blower works great on the concrete part. I have roughly 700' of gravel up to Hwy H. Leaf blower might work there but not enough extension cords.  I might need to invest is a gasser. |
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Post by amstilost on Feb 13, 2021 14:05:29 GMT -6
I 'thought' the snow here might pick up because of the radar, but the sky is the brightest it has been all day. Close to being sunny. Blue patches of sky around.
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mccarthb
Junior Forecaster
O'Fallon, MO - Outer Road near border of Dardenne Prarie
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Post by mccarthb on Feb 13, 2021 14:19:01 GMT -6
I can only find the Forecast Discussion. I used to be able to see the 7 day zone forecast for specific areas of the country in this format. This is the US map of NWS Offices. You can click individual NWS Offices. Try ThisPerfect, thank you!! |
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Have to go in later @ 4-10PM so things will be fun especially first half.
I might need to invest is a gasser.