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Post by ajd446 on Nov 4, 2021 5:36:15 GMT -6
24.7, dont think any plants survived last night's freeze in my corner of st.peters
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padlur
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Ballwin(by the golf course)
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Post by padlur on Nov 4, 2021 6:54:27 GMT -6
A frosty 26 here in Ballwin this morning.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Nov 4, 2021 6:59:46 GMT -6
Interesting model battle next week with the GFS/GEM more dominant with the S stream and the EC more dominant with the N stream and highly amplified.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Nov 4, 2021 7:15:54 GMT -6
Interesting model battle next week with the GFS/GEM more dominant with the S stream and the EC more dominant with the N stream and highly amplified. The GEFS has gone from a severe weather look to potential winter storm across the Midwest look. |
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Nov 4, 2021 8:13:35 GMT -6
Interesting model battle next week with the GFS/GEM more dominant with the S stream and the EC more dominant with the N stream and highly amplified. The GEFS has gone from a severe weather look to potential winter storm across the Midwest look. Lots of moving pieces to resolve...gonna be a few days before we get any sort of rough consensus I'd say. ENSO favors the EC solution with the dominant N stream but seasonal trend so far favors the cut off S stream low ala GFS/GEM. Hard to say which is more realistic. |
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Nov 4, 2021 13:15:59 GMT -6
Looks like the GFS is starting to cave towards the EC with the N stream being dominant next week...that's probably the more realistic outcome.
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Post by unclesam6 on Nov 5, 2021 9:02:55 GMT -6
Somethin about these old TWC charts are nostalgic.
What a storm this was.
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Post by STGOutdoors on Nov 5, 2021 9:16:50 GMT -6
It seems like the overall pattern is trending back to more and stronger mid-lat cyclones, starting with last year. There from about 2015-2019 it was hard to find one. Everything was just a boring, disorganized mess.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Nov 5, 2021 9:50:40 GMT -6
I still have nightmares from waking up to the sound of sleet falling during that storm...lol
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Post by STGOutdoors on Nov 5, 2021 9:55:41 GMT -6
I still have nightmares from waking up to the sound of sleet falling during that storm...lol I have nightmares of 34 degree pouring rain when models had us in the wheelhouse 60 hours out lol. I was in Cape G. at the time. |
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Nov 5, 2021 10:06:49 GMT -6
Somethin about these old TWC charts are nostalgic. What a storm this was. Images you can hear |
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Nov 5, 2021 10:23:45 GMT -6
I still have nightmares from waking up to the sound of sleet falling during that storm...lol I have nightmares of 34 degree pouring rain when models had us in the wheelhouse 60 hours out lol. I was in Cape G. at the time. What I found interesting about that storm is that once the sleet started, it never really switched. You'd think there would be transition over to snow with stronger lift but the warm conveyor/TROWAL was just too strong. |
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Nov 5, 2021 12:39:20 GMT -6
I have nightmares of 34 degree pouring rain when models had us in the wheelhouse 60 hours out lol. I was in Cape G. at the time. What I found interesting about that storm is that once the sleet started, it never really switched. You'd think there would be transition over to snow with stronger lift but the warm conveyor/TROWAL was just too strong. And there was Chris reporting from Foristel and getting buried. |
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Nov 5, 2021 12:53:48 GMT -6
What I found interesting about that storm is that once the sleet started, it never really switched. You'd think there would be transition over to snow with stronger lift but the warm conveyor/TROWAL was just too strong. And there was Chris reporting from Foristel and getting buried. The gradient with that storm was incredible...and very static through the event. A distance of 5-10 miles made all the difference. Close...yet so far away! |
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Post by Snowman99 on Nov 5, 2021 13:31:22 GMT -6
That storm was not cool.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Nov 5, 2021 14:18:04 GMT -6
CFS-768hr Model showing some decent hints of a wintry mess of a system around these parts November 27th. Would be about on schedule...
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Nov 5, 2021 17:51:46 GMT -6
What I found interesting about that storm is that once the sleet started, it never really switched. You'd think there would be transition over to snow with stronger lift but the warm conveyor/TROWAL was just too strong. And there was Chris reporting from Foristel and getting buried. thats not the only time the arch effect took over. i recall in the early 1990s when Columbia got buried under 19.5 inches of snow. the hamsters made it as far as foristell. i believe news was showing a female reporter explaining where foristell was, it was basically one truck stop it seemed, giant snow fles were flying and piling up. in ofallon, mo, just rain with an occasional ping of sleet, and 34, night and day. we picked up inches of rain. that has become the classic st louis winter storm..rain and 34. i will take what we got in 2011 any day as long as we have heat over that garbage in 1990 or 1991. a news anchor said, "looks like we dodged a bullet", but there was a fair amount of flooding. that was a long lasting event too, and at that time, you called a number to get the weather forecast. i might be dreaming this, but a former employee of the news station hacked into the phone system and changed the forecast: "armageddon is coming! 30 to 40 inches of snow expected!" I remember Dave Murray talking abt it and said it was a hoax. |
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Nov 6, 2021 8:57:43 GMT -6
Second half of November is looking pretty wintery.
Still long ways off though
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Post by Lovableweatherguy TROY,MO on Nov 6, 2021 10:44:36 GMT -6
Second half of November is looking pretty wintery. Still long ways off though I noticed that too. |
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Post by ndolan387 on Nov 7, 2021 8:34:14 GMT -6
CST: Here's to the models coming out one hour earlier now. If only we still had one more hour of daylight!
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Post by Snowman99 on Nov 7, 2021 9:01:58 GMT -6
The amount of daylight doesn't change, just goes to an extra hour in the morning..taken away in evening. Daylight savings is a dumb name. The whole concept is dumb now days. Just stop it already. Lol
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Post by ndolan387 on Nov 7, 2021 9:52:51 GMT -6
The amount of daylight doesn't change, just goes to an extra hour in the morning..taken away in evening. Daylight savings is a dumb name. The whole concept is dumb now days. Just stop it already. Lol Yes good point! What I should of said is one more hour of daylight in the evening. I prefer more daylight in the afternoon/evening. The morning people probably beg to differ. I guess the sun would end up rising close to 8am if we didn't switch over. |
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Post by cozpregon on Nov 7, 2021 18:54:59 GMT -6
Moon and Venus worth a look this evening
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Post by mosue56 on Nov 7, 2021 19:02:05 GMT -6
Chris is on ch 11 tonight! What a treat!
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Nov 7, 2021 19:20:42 GMT -6
Moon and Venus worth a look this evening Snapped a pic of them at sunset  |
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Nov 7, 2021 21:44:34 GMT -6
Chris is on ch 11 tonight! What a treat! And Ch 2. |
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Post by mchafin on Nov 8, 2021 0:06:39 GMT -6
Moon and Venus worth a look this evening Definitely caught my eye around 6p on the walk around the neighborhood. Saturn and Jupiter were out too, but not nearly as nice as Venus looked next to the moon. |
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Nov 8, 2021 11:14:02 GMT -6
12z ggem looks great for metro STL on Sunday with a clipper system dropping some light accumulations of snow.
12z gfs and 00z euro were north giving Wisconsin the snow, so proceed with little to no expectations
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Nov 8, 2021 11:22:15 GMT -6
12z ggem looks great for metro STL on Sunday with a clipper system dropping some light accumulations of snow. 12z gfs and 00z euro were north giving Wisconsin the snow, so proceed with little to no expectations I doubt the push of cold air ahead of that clipper will be strong and deep enough to keep it south but you never know. Definitely a chilly weekend coming up...friday looks pretty raw with RN/SN showers possible and strong NW wind. |
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Post by Snowman99 on Nov 8, 2021 12:19:59 GMT -6
Wsc says we're getting 2-4 inches Sunday! I can't wait. Should be cool
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