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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Jan 29, 2022 13:04:15 GMT -6
I think the euro is not amping up the kicker wave enough still. Considering how amped some of the GEFS members are I don’t mind the Euro being alittle subdued. The euro is still a rather significant storm for the area verbatim For sure, curious to see the ensembles. Fun setup.
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Post by Snowman99 on Jan 29, 2022 13:16:21 GMT -6
please do post the eps when they come in. Thank you
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Post by Snowman99 on Jan 29, 2022 13:21:21 GMT -6
3-6" an hour rates in that death band over and east of Boston..been there for a few hours now. Nuts.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Jan 29, 2022 13:23:33 GMT -6
EPS mean 10:1 still looks like money
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Post by Snowman99 on Jan 29, 2022 13:30:40 GMT -6
yeah doesnt look like much change from last night...good stuff...how much qpf?
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Post by Chris Higgins on Jan 29, 2022 13:47:08 GMT -6
And of course my ATT internet is down.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Jan 29, 2022 13:49:03 GMT -6
yeah doesnt look like much change from last night...good stuff...how much qpf? Looks like a small uptick compared to last nights run
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Post by cardsnweather on Jan 29, 2022 13:52:38 GMT -6
They officially hit blizzard status up there. That band is unreal.
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Post by cardsnweather on Jan 29, 2022 13:53:54 GMT -6
I don’t know about you guys, but reading through American wx just makes me want this storm to play out even worse.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Jan 29, 2022 14:00:48 GMT -6
18Z NBM is really really nice
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Post by landscaper on Jan 29, 2022 14:04:52 GMT -6
Wow that’s heavier than I thought the NBM would have at this point in the forecast. I like that we’re in the middle of most models. This will allow for any changes that may occur. The last few storms, we were on such a razor thin line of change over or snow that didn’t work out that well.
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Post by cardsnweather on Jan 29, 2022 14:08:27 GMT -6
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Post by cardsnweather on Jan 29, 2022 14:11:07 GMT -6
GEM ensemble mean is 2”+ area wide QPF.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Jan 29, 2022 14:15:29 GMT -6
18Z NBM is really really nice Pretty decent bump from 12Z which was impressive for the time. Looks like it went up about an inch and a half. Not bad.
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Post by bdgwx on Jan 29, 2022 14:16:14 GMT -6
2011 and 1982 are in the CIPS analog list. In fact for HR108 they are #1 and #2.
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Jan 29, 2022 14:16:31 GMT -6
GEM ensemble mean is 2”+ area wide QPF. Yes, but the snow depth product has a much more reasonable 6 inches of snow. Probably a better number to anchor on for those lurking. That is still a very high number for an ensemble mean.
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Post by Snowman99 on Jan 29, 2022 14:18:53 GMT -6
.LONG TERM... (Monday through Next Saturday) Issued at 159 PM CST Sat Jan 29 2022
Key Messages:
1. An impactful winter storm is forecast to move through the mid- Mississippi Valley Tuesday-Thursday, producing snow and wintry mix across the forecast area.
2. Uncertainty remains in where the transition zone between snow, wintry mix, and rain will occur, resulting in uncertainty in storm total amounts of snow and ice.
On Monday a shortwave trough will begin to pass through the northwesterly mid-level flow currently over the central CONUS, flattening the ridge over the western CONUS and shifting the region into a more zonal flow. Southerly low-level flow and subsequently WAA ahead of an approaching low will push Monday`s high temperatures above normal for late January. It will surely be the nicest day of the week. The axis of the mid-level shortwave will move across the US-Canada border during the day Tuesday, while at the surface a low will track across the same region, dragging a cold front through the mid-Mississippi Valley during the day Tuesday. Precipitation is expected ahead of and along the front as it drops into the region, initially falling as rain as the front pushes into seasonally warm low-level air. Cold air will move into the region behind the front and begin to cool area near to below freezing. The cold front is expected to stall just south of our CWA Tuesday night, draped across central Arkansas, the Missouri Bootheel, into the Ohio River Valley.
A mid-level trough will come onshore Tuesday and as it swings through the western CONUS, will throw the mid-Mississippi Valley into robust southwesterly flow. Warm air advection and isentropic ascent will overrun the stalled front Tuesday night renewing precipitation across the region. Uncertainty remains in what type of precipitation will make it to the ground Tuesday night through Wednesday, and it depends largely on the depth and robustness of the cold air behind the front. While areas near the Missouri-Iowa border are most likely to see snow begin to fall overnight Tuesday, a period of mixed wintry precipitation is expected overnight Tuesday into Wednesday as the 850mb temperature cools below freezing slower than the surface temperature across the bottom 2/3rds of the forecast area. Surfaces temperatures are still uncertain at this moment as well. A 10 degree temperature spread between the 25/75th percentiles still evident, though more members are showing temperatures closer to freezing and trends have been cooling over the past couple of cycles. As temperatures in the lowest levels of the atmosphere come into greater focus in the next couple of days, so too will precipitation types and totals.
The mid-level trough will swing through the region Thursday, mirrored by a surface low moving through the lower to mid Mississippi Valley. The movement of the low will add another complication into the mix for this mid-week event. Guidance is indicating the low will track northeastward along the stalled front, bringing a more robust surge of sub-freezing air and the potential for enhanced lift for snow to the forecast area. The exact track, strength, and speed of the low will impact how much snow falls and where on Thursday. Confidence is high that once the low moves into the region and low level temperatures drop below freezing, that all precipitation that falls in our CWA will fall as snow. Guidance remains in agreement that the low will push out of the region Thursday in concert with the northeastward lifting mid-level trough, but the timing of the system and precipitation exit is still uncertain and has shifted in recent model runs. Cold temperatures will linger through the end of the work week behind this system, aided by high pressure and northwesterly flow at the surface.
Bottom line: An impactful winter storm is expected across CWA between Tuesday and Thursday. Uncertainty remains in how quickly sub- freezing air will push into the entire CWA, and the track and speed of the low. All of this will influence precipitation type and amounts, which currently continue to vary.
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Jan 29, 2022 14:37:06 GMT -6
The amount of ZR for the S/E counties on that run of the GFS is extremely concerning for sure. Hopefully models slowly push that off to the SE. At least we have the GEM to hold on to....lol. It even prints out 1/4 in of accretion before the snow over our way. Im just having fun with it ….. I know the models will change 10 times between now and then …. That's a guarantee. And the mood of the forum will rise and fall with those changes. Which step is that?
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Jan 29, 2022 14:45:24 GMT -6
Nam finally getting into range with the 18z run.
It is clearly in the cold/south camp at hour 84.
Extrapolation from there suggests a monster snow for the metro.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Jan 29, 2022 14:48:29 GMT -6
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Post by Snowman99 on Jan 29, 2022 14:59:14 GMT -6
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Post by landscaper on Jan 29, 2022 14:59:45 GMT -6
Yes I mentioned earlier, it’s always nice once you get inside the 60-84 he range you pick up more models to worship. NAM is definitely cold, it has 3-4” of snow by midnight on Tuesday night. By far the coldest model , it usually goes through its phases, it’s the coldest than it will come in tomorrow as the warmest model only to go back to one of the coldest
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Post by Chris Higgins on Jan 29, 2022 15:18:26 GMT -6
Hold your thoughts... new thread coming!
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