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Post by amstilost on Feb 2, 2022 23:16:38 GMT -6
Already exploding just to my south and southwest.
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bfsmith81
Wishcaster
Edwardsville, IL
Posts: 150 
Snowfall Events: Winter of 2023-2024:
01/05/24-1/06/24: 2.5" (Melted almost immediately)
01/12/24-1/13/24: 0.25"
01/15/24: 0.75"
01/18/24-01/19/24: 0.5"
02/16/24: 4.25"
Winter of 2023-2024 Total So Far: 8.25"
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Post by bfsmith81 on Feb 2, 2022 23:18:29 GMT -6
Probably too soon and me being worrisome. But looks like dry air is keeping this thing from going onto the north side of I-44. Everything on the northern fringes seems to be eroding away. Looks like it's making it north of I-44 just fine now  imgur.com/a/X0kgPD4 |
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Post by let it snow11 on Feb 2, 2022 23:19:28 GMT -6
Complete changeover to all snow now.
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Post by Frivolousz21 on Feb 2, 2022 23:20:17 GMT -6
No it has not. How can nobody not notice the trends in this area. Today is a prime example mamy folks around mynarra have 5 inches while they only had 3.5 in troy and 2 to 3 in balwin. I always always have wondered if anyone in hear studies microclimates. The National Weather Service report from St. Pete's is 3.5" You just said 7" would give you nearly 13". Which implies you have almost 6" on the ground right now. I don't know if you do or don't. But something is off there  |
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Post by ajd446 on Feb 2, 2022 23:22:57 GMT -6
Friv people on this board reported 5 to 6 in my area. Just saying. Its not only me
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Feb 2, 2022 23:28:22 GMT -6
Microclimates and orographic enhancement is definitely a thing. There's a reason why tornadogenesis is enhanced in the MO river valley across STCC...the river plain and bluff line enhances low-level convergence and cyclonic inflow. I've watched storm after storm begin to rotate and drop tornadoes within that region up towards Elsah and Grafton. The tornado that barely missed me to the south and tore up the neighbors place followed the same evolution.
There's got to be a relation to the near-surface wind pattern and mid-level frontogenetic response in that area. I've seen it too many times.
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Post by demerson- Fletcher MO on Feb 2, 2022 23:28:25 GMT -6
Light snow has begun here in Fletcher. No sleet yay!
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Post by ndolan387 on Feb 2, 2022 23:28:29 GMT -6
That NWS map is a little off. I had 4.1" with the first wave today and I'm in NW STL county in Northern Wildwood!
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steve
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Wentzville, Mo
Posts: 228
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Post by steve on Feb 2, 2022 23:28:32 GMT -6
This is a painfully slow push into the area. Hopefully it takes as long to move out
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Post by ndolan387 on Feb 2, 2022 23:29:53 GMT -6
 Give it a little bit, but we are going to be in the right entrance region of that screaming jet streak in a couple hours. Divergence city...great lift for our heavier snow! |
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Post by Frivolousz21 on Feb 2, 2022 23:30:10 GMT -6
Already exploding just to my south and southwest. DUUUUUDDDEEEE.... WOW!!! THAT'S UNREAL. WHAT A HUGE AREA OF DEVELOPMENT...I HADN'T LOOKED AT THE RADAR IN ALMOST ALL HOUR. DAMN... THE MID LEVEL JET + WINDS TURNING MORE S/N WITH THE MID LEVEL LOW TIGHTENING UP A BIT. |
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Post by amstilost on Feb 2, 2022 23:31:39 GMT -6
I have light snow and temp of 18* 7 miles west of De Soto.
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Post by landscaper on Feb 2, 2022 23:32:19 GMT -6
There was definitely 4-5” along I 70 today I can attest to that, I how I think his numbers are usually “juiced” and a little inflated, St Charles county usually always outperforms STL county for the most part.
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Post by Frivolousz21 on Feb 2, 2022 23:32:50 GMT -6
Friv people on this board reported 5 to 6 in my area. Just saying. Its not only me I remember you posting an image this morning by your vehicle. It was probably tainted But you were already at 3.5" even if it was really only 2.5-3". I'm sure you picked up more snow as the day went on. |
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Post by Frivolousz21 on Feb 2, 2022 23:34:09 GMT -6
There was definitely 4-5” along I 70 today I can attest to that, I how I think his numbers are usually “juiced” and a little inflated, St Charles county usually always outperforms STL county for the most part. Maybe someone is trying to discredit him from afar. I don't know. That's a really low number when the consensus is 5". Maybe some compacting |
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Post by cozpregon on Feb 2, 2022 23:34:41 GMT -6
Microclimates and orographic enhancement is definitely a thing. There's a reason why tornadogenesis is enhanced in the MO river valley across STCC...the river plain and bluff line enhances low-level convergence and cyclonic inflow. I've watched storm after storm begin to rotate and drop tornadoes within that region up towards Elsah and Grafton. The tornado that barely missed me to the south and tore up the neighbors place followed the same evolution. There's got to be a relation to the near-surface wind pattern and mid-level frontogenetic response in that area. I've seen it too many times. That area around Creve Coeur Lake is also an area where tornados like to form |
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Post by mchafin on Feb 2, 2022 23:35:23 GMT -6
Flakes starting to fall in Sunset Hills.
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Post by Frivolousz21 on Feb 2, 2022 23:36:30 GMT -6
This is a painfully slow push into the area. Hopefully it takes as long to move out STTEEEVVEEE! My man, the snow field isn't moving in slow. It's moving NNE like a freight train. |
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Post by ajd446 on Feb 2, 2022 23:36:48 GMT -6
Thank you. I just measured where the wind was not blowing. But thats what I left it up to folks near me today. I personally feel like I have done nothing wrong this storm by any of you as I really am trying to be better.
So i was actually serious friv why we get a ton the the enhanced bands in this part of the metro.
That is all I was getting at. No harm no foul and nobody over the times I ask as I feel today was proof in our area of enhanced band.
Im sorry if I upset anyone today.
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Post by amstilost on Feb 2, 2022 23:37:46 GMT -6
Experts, what are we looking at in Waterloo for this round? I had about .75 of an inch of sleet give or take today. I want to destroy my kids with snowballs. Will this be able to happen? I think you are due east of me but if your still awake is should be snowing there or within a very short time. And just to clarify, I'm no expert. |
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Post by ajd446 on Feb 2, 2022 23:39:19 GMT -6
Thankyou brtnwxmn.
I appreciate the explanation.
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Post by Frivolousz21 on Feb 2, 2022 23:39:47 GMT -6
Thank you. I just measured where the wind was not blowing. But thats what I left it up to filks near me today. I personally feel like I have done nothing wrong this storm by any of you as I really am trying to be better. So i was actually serious friv why we get a ton the the enhanced bands in this part of the metro. That is all I was getting at. No harm no foul and nobody over the times I ask as I feel today was proof in our area of enhanced band. Im sorry if I upset anyone today. I was serious at well. I think it's probably just simply where you live. Better placement. Because as you go North seasonal snow totals continually increase. The SE ridge is a real tropical ocean driven phenomenon that has a huge impact on our sensible weather. If you start walking directly towards the Caribbean Sea it will get warmer without fail. Closer towards Canada colder without fail |
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Post by stlweatherguy - Hillsboro, MO on Feb 2, 2022 23:40:19 GMT -6
light snow has begun in Hillsboro, MO,
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Post by ajd446 on Feb 2, 2022 23:40:37 GMT -6
Thank you friv as well.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Feb 2, 2022 23:40:46 GMT -6
This is a painfully slow push into the area. Hopefully it takes as long to move out STTEEEVVEEE! My man, the snow field isn't moving in slow. It's moving NNE like a freight train. Yeah, pretty sure Midnight was the general expected timing of it's arrival. If anything it's right on time! |
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Feb 2, 2022 23:41:07 GMT -6
Not only does the radar look good upstream...it stretches all the way down to Mehico. Unreal.
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Post by amstilost on Feb 2, 2022 23:44:47 GMT -6
Small flakes but snowing moderately. Areas of concrete driveway that was cleared is already dusted. Bring it.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Feb 2, 2022 23:44:58 GMT -6
Don't forget about elevation...always plays a role with snowfall. Just think back to the storm early last month...the lower elevation area within the CWA from the Metro SE had a pronounced minima while areas on both sides of the river valley at higher elevations received an appreciable snowfall. The urban heat island plays no favors, either. St. Louis is quite literally a snow hole.
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gonefishin - WashMO
Junior Forecaster
Washington, Franklin County, MO
Posts: 491
Snowfall Events: 2013-2014: A lot!
2014-2015: If you forecast it, it will come!
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Post by gonefishin - WashMO on Feb 2, 2022 23:47:05 GMT -6
Having trouble winding down for the night. This is so exciting!!!!!
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Post by RyanD on Feb 2, 2022 23:49:32 GMT -6
Flakes beginning to fly in Waterloo
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