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Post by perryville on Feb 4, 2022 9:40:54 GMT -6
I’m calling it at 6.25” 7-miles west of Perryville. 1-1.5” of sleet/freezing rain and 5” inches of snow. Picked up almost another inch with the bonus snow. This one was very difficult to measure.
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Post by perryville on Feb 4, 2022 10:03:13 GMT -6
Props to Chris and all the people on this forum. The excitement of watching the storm come together from nearly 2 weeks ago is what this board this all about. The ups and downs of each model run is something that only the Higgin’s Crew would understand. Now, we can warm up to 70 degrees so we can read Snowman complain about his swampy yard  . |
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Post by maddogchief on Feb 4, 2022 10:17:00 GMT -6
Now we just have to wait like 9 days for the next chance.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Feb 4, 2022 10:29:57 GMT -6
Now we just have to wait like 9 days for the next chance. There’s some clipper energy worth keeping an eye on late next week as we ride the western edge of these arctic air shots. |
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bfsmith81
Wishcaster
Edwardsville, IL
Posts: 150 
Snowfall Events: Winter of 2023-2024:
01/05/24-1/06/24: 2.5" (Melted almost immediately)
01/12/24-1/13/24: 0.25"
01/15/24: 0.75"
01/18/24-01/19/24: 0.5"
02/16/24: 4.25"
Winter of 2023-2024 Total So Far: 8.25"
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Post by bfsmith81 on Feb 4, 2022 10:30:14 GMT -6
Now we just have to wait like 9 days for the next chance. Yeah been a pretty consistent signal on the GFS runs recently for something to come together in the middle of the country around 2/16 with maybe a clipper or two between now and then. Looking forward to it!  |
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Post by ajd446 on Feb 4, 2022 10:31:08 GMT -6
Great storm across the board, i think just about everyone saw 6 plus of stuff.
Cant get much better than that in these parts.
Have a great weekend everyone.
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Post by STGOutdoors on Feb 4, 2022 10:31:24 GMT -6
I'm calling 6" total between sleet and snow at my locale in Perryville. I'd say at work in northern STG county it is in the 10-12" range. Big time drifts at both locations. It was a lot of fun reeling that one in and having it actually work out.
Having said that, it has been quite cold since early to mid Jan, and I got my first thought of spring fever this morning. I wouldn't hate another storm to watch, but I am feeling fulfilled and ready to turn the page if that doesn't happen.
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Post by bdgwx on Feb 4, 2022 11:23:13 GMT -6
Here are the preliminary storm totals.  |
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Post by ComoEsJn on Feb 4, 2022 11:42:16 GMT -6
Here are the preliminary storm totals. same graphic has Union at 11.0" and 9.6"? What am I missing here? |
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Post by weatherj on Feb 4, 2022 11:42:54 GMT -6
I can see definitely see the small discrepancies in totals. I commented on the NWS facebook page that Salem, IL recorded 6 inches. I see they have Union at 11.0" on the left and 9.6" on the actual map. I'm guessing maybe it's the difference between what spotters have reported vs. town water treatment facilities/airports...with all the blowing and drifting, I can see why there would be different numbers.
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Post by jeffcobeeman on Feb 4, 2022 11:47:34 GMT -6
Now we just have to wait like 9 days for the next chance. And hope it's cold enough that it is frozen precipitation. |
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Feb 4, 2022 12:00:10 GMT -6
Maybe they should have split up the preliminary-preliminary map from the totals listing...lol
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Post by Snowman99 on Feb 4, 2022 12:00:28 GMT -6
Here are the preliminary storm totals. funny how the map has union ay 9.6 but the last has 11 edit..obviously i am late to this party lol |
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Feb 4, 2022 12:07:00 GMT -6
Snow pile at the end of the driveway it just about as tall as the mailbox
Always the sign of a good snowstorm
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Post by bdgwx on Feb 4, 2022 12:19:42 GMT -6
I question some of those reports as well. jmg378s is closer to the 11" Harvester report than I am and he reported 9.5". I reported 9.4". Two co-op stations nearby recorded 9.5" and 9.9". I'm not saying there is anything nefarious going on. Measuring snowfall is hard and inexact with high uncertainty. But I do question some of these reports. BTW... here is the snowfall report map if anyone is curious. |
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Post by REB on Feb 4, 2022 12:23:58 GMT -6
Snow pile at the end of the driveway it just about as tall as the mailbox Always the sign of a good snowstorm I’m not sure the mail person would agree 🤪 |
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Post by bdgwx on Feb 4, 2022 12:34:47 GMT -6
KSTL reported 1.55" of liquid over the last 3 days and 6.7" of snow. Could you break that down into different phases of the storm...rain, sleet/ZR and snow? Be a lot cooler if ya did. I still need to get an 8" gauge for SLR calculations. Or at least fix the sensor on the Davis that's been broken for like 8 years, lol Do we know when the changeover occurred at KSTL? Here is the accumulation breakdown by hour. < 12/01 21:00 = 0.00 to 0.32 12/01 21:00 = 0.32 12/01 22:00 = 0.43 12/01 23:00 = 0.51 12/02 00:00 = 0.59 12/02 01:00 = 0.62 12/02 02:00 = 0.65 12/02 03:00 = 0.68 12/02 04:00 = 0.72 12/02 05:00 = 0.74 12/02 06:00 = 0.81 12/02 07:00 = 0.90 12/02 08:00 = 0.96 12/02 09:00 = 0.99 > 12/02 09:00 = 0.99 to 1.55 |
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Post by cozpregon on Feb 4, 2022 12:44:07 GMT -6
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Post by ajd446 on Feb 4, 2022 12:44:43 GMT -6
If anyone checks out visible sattelite the snow field is HUGE!!!!!! One of the most impressive ive seen, mexico to maine
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Post by dschreib on Feb 4, 2022 12:48:09 GMT -6
Here are the preliminary storm totals. same graphic has Union at 11.0" and 9.6"? What am I missing here? Fuzzy math or the Russkies. Take your pick. |
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Post by cardsnweather on Feb 4, 2022 12:55:21 GMT -6
Here are the preliminary storm totals. same graphic has Union at 11.0" and 9.6"? What am I missing here? They know how important 99 is so one is for his home and the other is his work. |
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Post by amstilost on Feb 4, 2022 13:32:18 GMT -6
I question some of those reports as well. jmg378s is closer to the 11" Harvester report than I am and he reported 9.5". I reported 9.4". Two co-op stations nearby recorded 9.5" and 9.9". I'm not saying there is anything nefarious going on. Measuring snowfall is hard and inexact with high uncertainty. But I do question some of these reports. BTW... here is the snowfall report map if anyone is curious. I see no one has reported any amounts for De Soto. I'm waiting for some confirmation on my amounts. We got at least another 1/2" or so overnight. Checked with radar and that seems to confirm something fell. Up to 32* but it feels a lot warmer shoveling 9" drifts off my back patio. On the reports I see Hillsboro at 7", Hematite 9.7" and Festus 10". Maybe that 9" drift I am shoveling is not a drift at all. Hmmmmm. Hillsboro and Hematite about equal distance from me 9-10 miles, Hillsboro due north and Hematite, Festus due east. I think my high amounts were 7" snow and 1.5" of crust. I believe Demerson had a lower crust total but I haven't seen any updates from him. No matter what, a great system to follow and freak out over. Great job Chris, and all the hobbyists, college Met's, retired Met's. If I left anyone out, please include yourself.  This blog is awesome. |
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Feb 4, 2022 13:38:06 GMT -6
Taking a quick glance at the GEFS...it looks like overall, winter is hanging pretty tough into mid-month. Some see-saw temp patterns with rapid fire clippers into next week, but then a big amplification towards next Wednesday. No big warm up due to the deep snow cover, although Tuesday could bump into the 40s. We could get some light snow from that front as the deeper cold comes back in, and then possibly again towards next weekend. No big storm threat until closer to the 16th-18th time frame, when the PNA/EPO ridge appears to get knocked down by a big slug of Pacific energy. Models suggest this will dig towards the Great Basin, with a split flow developing and confluent/NW flow lingering across the N tier/Great Lakes. That's a supportive looking pattern for a potentially significant winter storm somewhere across the middle of the country. It looks pretty similar to the setup we just saw, but smoothing on the ensemble mass fields suggests a weaker ridge over the top and less deep cold. But it's a long way out, so finer details could change or it could go "poof". The rather persistent -EPO/+PNA is pretty encouraging though.
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Post by ComoEsJn on Feb 4, 2022 13:47:54 GMT -6
I question some of those reports as well. jmg378s is closer to the 11" Harvester report than I am and he reported 9.5". I reported 9.4". Two co-op stations nearby recorded 9.5" and 9.9". I'm not saying there is anything nefarious going on. Measuring snowfall is hard and inexact with high uncertainty. But I do question some of these reports. BTW... here is the snowfall report map if anyone is curious. its seems very very localized in ST Chs County. I'm at 94 and Kisker and I was an easy 11.5-12, in multiple flat spots away from too much wind. |
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Post by ajd446 on Feb 4, 2022 13:54:37 GMT -6
I am not far from kisker and 94, and I can confirm i never made an official measurement or report, but yes 1 foot gauranteed fell in this area. It was a ton to shovel.
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Post by bororug on Feb 4, 2022 14:28:46 GMT -6
I question some of those reports as well. jmg378s is closer to the 11" Harvester report than I am and he reported 9.5". I reported 9.4". Two co-op stations nearby recorded 9.5" and 9.9". I'm not saying there is anything nefarious going on. Measuring snowfall is hard and inexact with high uncertainty. But I do question some of these reports. BTW... here is the snowfall report map if anyone is curious. I see no one has reported any amounts for De Soto. I'm waiting for some confirmation on my amounts. We got at least another 1/2" or so overnight. Checked with radar and that seems to confirm something fell. Up to 32* but it feels a lot warmer shoveling 9" drifts off my back patio. On the reports I see Hillsboro at 7", Hematite 9.7" and Festus 10". Maybe that 9" drift I am shoveling is not a drift at all. Hmmmmm. Hillsboro and Hematite about equal distance from me 9-10 miles, Hillsboro due north and Hematite, Festus due east. I think my high amounts were 7" snow and 1.5" of crust. I believe Demerson had a lower crust total but I haven't seen any updates from him. No matter what, a great system to follow and freak out over. Great job Chris, and all the hobbyists, college Met's, retired Met's. If I left anyone out, please include yourself. This blog is awesome. We ended up w/ about 8” in rural Festus. I’d imagine you’d be pretty close to that. |
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Weather Weenie
Wentzville
Posts: 12
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Post by jipper on Feb 4, 2022 14:36:25 GMT -6
Could you break that down into different phases of the storm...rain, sleet/ZR and snow? Be a lot cooler if ya did. I still need to get an 8" gauge for SLR calculations. Or at least fix the sensor on the Davis that's been broken for like 8 years, lol Do we know when the changeover occurred at KSTL? Here is the accumulation breakdown by hour. < 12/01 21:00 = 0.00 to 0.32 12/01 21:00 = 0.32 12/01 22:00 = 0.43 12/01 23:00 = 0.51 12/02 00:00 = 0.59 12/02 01:00 = 0.62 12/02 02:00 = 0.65 12/02 03:00 = 0.68 12/02 04:00 = 0.72 12/02 05:00 = 0.74 12/02 06:00 = 0.81 12/02 07:00 = 0.90 12/02 08:00 = 0.96 12/02 09:00 = 0.99 > 12/02 09:00 = 0.99 to 1.55 Per observations, it was just after 1AM on the 2nd when the change over to PL occurred.
KSTL 020704Z 36011G19KT 4SM -PLRA BR OVC005 01/01 A3004 RMK AO2 PLB04 CIG 005V009 P0000 T00060006 $
Between 1AM and roughly 7AM it was a mixed bag of PL/FZRA/SN
Change over to all snow didn't occur until 641AM on the 2nd.
KSTL 021241Z 34012G22KT 1 1/4SM -SN BR FEW008 BKN018 OVC031 M05/M05 A3009 RMK AO2 PLE41 P0008 T10501050 $
So based on above, you're looking at about 0.65" of precip that was all snow. So airport snow/liquid ratio was about 10:1.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Feb 4, 2022 14:54:53 GMT -6
Updated snow map
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Post by Frivolousz21 on Feb 4, 2022 16:10:49 GMT -6
Amounts from people here in town came in as low as 4.5 to as high as 8.2..lol. Measuring this stuff was difficult here in town (as was across all of the CWA) because of the drifting, but the official measurement for Salem, IL was 6 inches. That was after the 0.15" ice accretion and 1/4 of sleet. That's a very high impact event in my book and a long time since a winter event of that magnitude has happened in our area. I would start with 8" in Belleville. But could have easily been closer to 10". I can't see how anyone in the immediate metro recieved under 8". When I left for work at 630AM yesterday I measured 4-4.5" in Belleville from wave 2 only. The NWS has Belleville in the 6-8" area. It snowed for another 10 hours. At even 1/2" an hour average that's 9"+. At the civic center yesterday we cleared parts of the concrete 3 times and put a ton of salt down. It was snowing so hard the salt didn't do jack. I estimate we had heavy snow about 2.5-3 hours. Moderate snow most of the time and a couple 30 min periods of light snow Between 1:40-2:50 we had heavy snow with dimes and nickels it let up a bit then between 3-410pm we had very heavy snow with large flakes and nickels pouring. That it self dropped a little over 2". I'm glad everyone got something |
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Post by Frivolousz21 on Feb 4, 2022 16:14:39 GMT -6
Here are the preliminary storm totals. same graphic has Union at 11.0" and 9.6"? What am I missing here? Those Illinois totals are almost all below what actually fell. |
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