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Post by weatherman222 on Dec 22, 2022 10:49:31 GMT -6
Wind shift just came through Fredericktown. Light Rain and 36*F currently.
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Post by Labrat-O'Fallon IL on Dec 22, 2022 10:53:25 GMT -6
Buffalo expecting up to 4 feet of snow and 70mph winds. so it's thursday? I about spit out my coffee.
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Post by thechaser on Dec 22, 2022 11:02:34 GMT -6
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Post by tedrick65 on Dec 22, 2022 11:02:56 GMT -6
Precip is certainly scooting along. Noon looks like a good call. The Mrs. is mad at me because I cancelled a grooming appointment for one of our dogs where pickup was supposed to be about 1:30pm or 2:00pm today. So...if anyone knows any dog groomers in the High Ridge/Fenton/Valley Park area that aren't booked solid 6 weeks out...I could use a little help!
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Dec 22, 2022 11:03:18 GMT -6
Some of this reminds me of a movie scene. Helen Hunt: Everybody! Get inside quick! Big cold front coming!
Bill Paxton: its already here!
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Post by birdsonthebat (MO'Fallon) on Dec 22, 2022 11:05:41 GMT -6
Was 38 in Hillsboro Mo at 8:30. Now 28 with enough precip to coat my truck. Left at 7:45 to take my son to wrestling practice …it was 34. Picked him back up at 10:00 and it’s was down to 16. Currently at 12.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Dec 22, 2022 11:06:20 GMT -6
Snow rate really picking up now and temp down to 12*
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Dec 22, 2022 11:08:36 GMT -6
Visibility quickly lowering with dendrites falling. Already getting some BLSN with the dusting on the ground.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Dec 22, 2022 11:09:09 GMT -6
related discussion:
DISCUSSION...Recent surface observations from far eastern IA show visibility reductions down to 1/4 mile at times under a persistent, though loosely organized, snow band. Based on latest RAP mesoanalysis, this band is primarily being driven by broad scale ascent ahead of a deepening upper low over the central Plains, augmented by more focused frontogenetical lift within the 850-700 mb layer. Forecast soundings indicate that much of this lift coincides with a 100-150 mb deep dendritic growth zone, which is likely yielding moderate, to at times heavy, snowfall rates up to 1 inch/hour. Concurrently, strong cold advection behind the surface front is supporting frequent wind gusts between 25-35 knots from eastern IA to central MO. The combination of these winds and moderate snowfall rates will likely result in periods of blizzard/snow squall conditions with visibility reductions briefly falling to 1/4 mile under the snow band as it continues moving east through early/mid afternoon.
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Post by Snowman99 on Dec 22, 2022 11:10:11 GMT -6
here's the disco for the meso disco
SUMMARY...Sporadic, short-lived blizzard/snow squall conditions will be possible under a mesoscale snow band as it tracks east across parts of eastern Missouri and western Illinois through early/mid afternoon.
DISCUSSION...Recent surface observations from far eastern IA show visibility reductions down to 1/4 mile at times under a persistent, though loosely organized, snow band. Based on latest RAP mesoanalysis, this band is primarily being driven by broad scale ascent ahead of a deepening upper low over the central Plains, augmented by more focused frontogenetical lift within the 850-700 mb layer. Forecast soundings indicate that much of this lift coincides with a 100-150 mb deep dendritic growth zone, which is likely yielding moderate, to at times heavy, snowfall rates up to 1 inch/hour. Concurrently, strong cold advection behind the surface front is supporting frequent wind gusts between 25-35 knots from eastern IA to central MO. The combination of these winds and moderate snowfall rates will likely result in periods of blizzard/snow squall conditions with visibility reductions briefly falling to 1/4 mile under the snow band as it continues moving east through early/mid afternoon.
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Post by Snowman99 on Dec 22, 2022 11:10:36 GMT -6
dammit 920 lol
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Post by freezyfree on Dec 22, 2022 11:11:28 GMT -6
Some of this reminds me of a movie scene. Helen Hunt: Everybody! Get inside quick! Big cold front coming! Bill Paxton: its already here! You sir, are in trouble!
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Post by TK on Dec 22, 2022 11:13:37 GMT -6
Looks like radar is showing snow breaking up quickly just West of Columbia - One quick hit of snow maybe 1-2 hours = 1-2 inches
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Post by rb1108 on Dec 22, 2022 11:13:56 GMT -6
Could the NWS issue a snow squall warning, or does the WSW cover it?
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Post by tedrick65 on Dec 22, 2022 11:16:30 GMT -6
Looks like radar is showing snow breaking up quickly just West of Columbia - One quick hit of snow maybe 1-2 hours = 1-2 inches MZZU is showing the back side pretty well. Wish the live loop worked.
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Post by Snowman99 on Dec 22, 2022 11:16:58 GMT -6
Could the NWS issue a snow squall warning, or does the WSW cover it? we are under a winter storm warning, there will be no snow squall warning. And per TK, it will snow for 3 or so hours not an hr or 2. It's already snowed an hour here in Union and the main band is just getting ready move in
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Post by jeepers on Dec 22, 2022 11:17:14 GMT -6
15 degrees. Tiny occasional bursts of salt shaker snow. A few wind gusts.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Dec 22, 2022 11:17:31 GMT -6
Looks like radar is showing snow breaking up quickly just West of Columbia - One quick hit of snow maybe 1-2 hours = 1-2 inches The radar is overshooting a lot of the snow with the DGZ being so low. The system is also going to be strengthening as it moves into the area so the precep shield will expand.
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Post by thechaser on Dec 22, 2022 11:20:21 GMT -6
Flakes flying pretty good in Edwardsville now. Looks more impressive in person than what radar is showing.
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Post by amstilost on Dec 22, 2022 11:23:44 GMT -6
Salt shaker snow with occassional larger flakes (pea size) and down to 19* 7 miles west of De Soto. Driveway dusted over.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Dec 22, 2022 11:24:02 GMT -6
Flakes flying pretty good in Edwardsville now. Looks more impressive in person than what radar is showing. There's some low-level snow showers falling below the radar for sure. When they come through the snow rate and flake size picks up dramatically.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Dec 22, 2022 11:26:32 GMT -6
Jeff City currently reporting heavy snow and quarter mile visibility
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Post by TK on Dec 22, 2022 11:29:30 GMT -6
Looks like radar is showing snow breaking up quickly just West of Columbia - One quick hit of snow maybe 1-2 hours = 1-2 inches The radar is overshooting a lot of the snow with the DGZ being so low. The system is also going to be strengthening as it moves into the area so the precep shield will expand. I pray
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Post by amstilost on Dec 22, 2022 11:31:42 GMT -6
The 'streamers' really show up on composite. Pretty sure one was over 99 when he mentioned it picking up. I am hoping that the radar is 'losing' the echos from further down south. Looking at Spf radar I should have no issues. Almost seems like wherever that band sets up in a east/west orientation should give some nice 'bullseyes'.
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Post by stlweatherguy - Hillsboro, MO on Dec 22, 2022 11:38:45 GMT -6
Snow really picked up in Hillsboro, Mo a few minutes ago.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Dec 22, 2022 11:41:09 GMT -6
1/2mi vis and 10*
That band out west is looking stout...
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Post by amstilost on Dec 22, 2022 11:41:18 GMT -6
I have very little snow and almost looks bright enough that the sun might peak through. WTH Temp down to 17* 7 miles west of De Soto.
Edit: Must be that very small clear spot over me on Composite radar.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Dec 22, 2022 11:44:57 GMT -6
FXUS63 KLSX 221719 AFDLSX
Area Forecast Discussion...Updated National Weather Service Saint Louis MO 1119 AM CST Thu Dec 22 2022
.UPDATE... Issued at 1111 AM CST Thu Dec 22 2022
A band of moderate to heavy snow continues to move eastward through central and northeast Missouri as well as west-central Illinois late this morning. Several observations have shown 1/4SM +SN and see no reason short durations of near-blizzard conditions will translate across the rest of the area through the day. Short-term guidance shows this band of moderate to heavy snow slowing down a bit as the mid/upper level trough amplifies overhead. Have therefore boosted snow totals ever so slightly across eastern Missouri, and about 0.5-1.0" in southeast Missouri and southwest Illinois where snow will continue past dusk.
The other change was to fasten the arrival of the subzero temperatures and cool temperatures a bit overnight tonight. Upstream observations show widespread readings at or below -10F in the mid-Missouri Valley. Strong low-level cold air advection also continues through the night with 850-hPa temperatures approaching -30C. This resulted in wind chill warning in northern sections of the CWA was moved up to start at 18Z. No further changes to either winter storm or wind chill warnings at this time.
Gosselin
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Dec 22, 2022 11:45:31 GMT -6
Had a moderate burst between 1030 and 11. Can now see snow in the grass. Deck is covered.
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Post by goosetalk - Troy, MO on Dec 22, 2022 11:45:34 GMT -6
Cotton balls in Troy, Mo Wind has slowed for a moment.
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