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Post by Jeffmw on Aug 1, 2023 8:50:15 GMT -6
As along as we don’t get the severe thunderstorms I can take the heavy rain.
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Post by REB on Aug 1, 2023 9:25:55 GMT -6
Rain ok. Flash flooding ........no.
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Aug 1, 2023 9:52:24 GMT -6
Yeah im done with the feast or famine nature of our rainfall pattern lately. Unfortunately, the nam continues with the idea of some insane totals and in situations like this, models dont do justice on the qpf. Some ppl are going to get alot of rain. Im not a fan of rainfall forecasts that sound more like a 15 year snowfall accumulation forecast for sure.
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Post by Jeffmw on Aug 1, 2023 9:56:01 GMT -6
Yeah im done with the feast or famine nature of our rainfall pattern lately. Unfortunately, the nam continues with the idea of some insane totals and in situations like this, models dont do justice on the qpf. Some ppl are going to get alot of rain. Im not a fan of rainfall forecasts that sound more like a 15 year snowfall accumulation forecast for sure. I don’t mind the rain they can keep the strong storms.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Aug 1, 2023 10:13:46 GMT -6
12z HREF shows the highest totals tonight west of the immediate metro Each round should push gradually east
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Post by dgl1004-Moberly, MO on Aug 1, 2023 11:25:40 GMT -6
I haven't had to mow the lawn in almost a month. I have a feeling it will need to be done after this week.
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Post by ajd446 on Aug 1, 2023 12:06:14 GMT -6
Suprised the metro is not in the flood watch when they went to the mississippi river north of pike county.
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Post by John G -west belleville on Aug 1, 2023 12:21:46 GMT -6
Suprised the metro is not in the flood watch when they went to the mississippi river north of pike county. LSX and WPC coordinating forecasting. From the WPC update:
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Aug 1, 2023 12:59:25 GMT -6
Nam 3k has over 11 inches on troy, mo through thursday night. The hrrr sets up a maxima over franklin county with nearly 5 inches through thursday morning. I think anybody cld get deluged with this west of the ms.
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Post by John G -west belleville on Aug 1, 2023 13:32:26 GMT -6
Watching from 8 miles east of the arch is gonna be fun the next couple of nights.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Aug 1, 2023 14:28:23 GMT -6
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ilnois
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Post by ilnois on Aug 1, 2023 14:31:31 GMT -6
When will the next Day 2 be issued by the WPC?
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Aug 1, 2023 14:41:57 GMT -6
When will the next Day 2 be issued by the WPC? This is the latest update about half an hour ago
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Post by STGOutdoors on Aug 1, 2023 14:47:47 GMT -6
Someone is going to get a hell of a lot of rain.
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Aug 1, 2023 15:03:34 GMT -6
The city couldn't be any more of a bullseye if it was drawn that way on purpose.
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Aug 1, 2023 15:18:35 GMT -6
Jmo, Im not buying the eastward update by that much, but it goes to show that the narrow train and where it sets up is fairly unpredictable. Still thinking pike, montgomery, lincoln, warren, franklin, washingon, st charles county kind of thing with 4 or more inches of rain. Like perhaps wright city, which is 45 miles west of city being the bullseye. But maybe they are seeing the nose of the llj a little further east?
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Post by John G -west belleville on Aug 1, 2023 15:25:08 GMT -6
Jmo, Im not buying the eastward update by that much, but it goes to show that the narrow train and where it sets up is fairly unpredictable. Still thinking pike, montgomery, lincoln, warren, franklin, washingon, st charles county kind of thing with 4 or more inches of rain. Like perhaps wright city, which is 45 miles west of city being the bullseye. But maybe they are seeing the nose of the llj a little further east? I think you're right for tonight. River tomorrow night
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Aug 1, 2023 15:25:21 GMT -6
Oh i see, thats day 2. Im still concerned abt day 1. Whatever the case, this is shaping up to be a multiday high impact heavy rain flash flood event, especially for the overlapping areas...along and n of 70.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Aug 1, 2023 16:42:00 GMT -6
I sure hope we don't get missed by the heavier rainfall up this way...we got 0.4" from Saturday's storm and you couldn't even tell it rained by Monday.
I'm ready for this awful drought to be a thing of the past. My garden is nearly a complete loss at this point...the ground got so dry that water wouldn't penetrate the surface and the 100* temps was the final death toll. I'm hoping I can salvage the few watermelons on the vines out there. So much work down the drain!
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Aug 1, 2023 16:45:26 GMT -6
Quite a few models including the NAM redevelop the heavier axis of rainfall along and just E of the river tomorrow morning...hopefully that pans out. It looks like Thurs AM is the best bet for heavy rainfall around here.
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Post by cozpregon on Aug 1, 2023 17:04:42 GMT -6
Cherry pick this... but NAM deep warm column is impressive. 850 Tds are in the upper 60s. Let's not underestimate the potential the next 36 hours for heavy rain. NAM tightens up a convectively induced vort tracking just to our south tomorrow night
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Aug 1, 2023 17:10:05 GMT -6
That omega tho...
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Post by cozpregon on Aug 1, 2023 17:15:09 GMT -6
I chose the spot where the lift from the induced vort was maximized
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Post by cozpregon on Aug 1, 2023 17:25:59 GMT -6
Tops well over 50000' with that sounding
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Aug 1, 2023 18:51:04 GMT -6
Tops well over 50000' with that sounding Saturation into the tropopause and freezing level around 17k...definitely a prolific rainfall sounding
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Aug 1, 2023 20:34:59 GMT -6
12z HREF shows the highest totals tonight west of the immediate metro Each round should push gradually east is href on pivotal weather, and is it known by a different name? I've been looking at the HRRR but would like to see the href.
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Post by jeepers on Aug 1, 2023 20:52:06 GMT -6
Just. Rain. The drought needs to end for everyone.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Aug 1, 2023 20:55:21 GMT -6
12z HREF shows the highest totals tonight west of the immediate metro Each round should push gradually east is href on pivotal weather, and is it known by a different name? I've been looking at the HRRR but would like to see the href. I don’t think it’s on Pivotal. The best place to get it is from the SPC site: www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/href/
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Aug 1, 2023 21:18:17 GMT -6
is href on pivotal weather, and is it known by a different name? I've been looking at the HRRR but would like to see the href. I don’t think it’s on Pivotal. The best place to get it is from the SPC site: www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/href/thank you.
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Aug 1, 2023 21:59:32 GMT -6
seems like the models are cutting qpf. hrrr especially. still, given the conceptual setup, thinking rainfall totals will outperform model qpf. Still like 4+ inches very late tonight into tomorrow morning, then again later tomorrow evening in a narrow corridor somewhere within an hour west of St. Louis.
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