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Post by STGOutdoors on Oct 18, 2019 15:40:30 GMT -6
Last year I saw the earliest winter precipitation I’ve ever seen...some sleet on I believe October 28. Crazy to see how close it is next Friday.
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Post by Chris Higgins on Oct 18, 2019 16:07:12 GMT -6
Chris said we're getting a historic snowstorm by Halloween, yay! I'll be sure to post that on FB. ;-) The record snowfall for both days involved is a trace
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Post by bdgwx on Oct 18, 2019 16:33:22 GMT -6
The GOM has given birth to Nestor. i guess that means it is not an empty-nestor anymore I know.... it is very bad. That was a dad joke.
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Oct 18, 2019 16:41:26 GMT -6
I'll be sure to post that on FB. ;-) The record snowfall for both days involved is a trace Still scratching my head over the the trace of snow the NWS recorded in August.
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Post by Lovableweatherguy TROY,MO on Oct 18, 2019 20:06:17 GMT -6
Whats the biggest snowfall in Oct and Nov for STL?
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Post by showtime - Marissa on Oct 18, 2019 21:24:41 GMT -6
I know it snowed in 1993 on Oct 30 and Oct 31 down this way.... had a solid dusting back to back nights
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Post by ndolan387 on Oct 18, 2019 23:11:41 GMT -6
The 00z GFS looks like fun around these parts in about 10 days! We would be talking about snow. Pure fantasy, but this upcoming blocking pattern with southern moisture supply looks good tho early. Maybe too good to be true haha. Either way a hard freeze is becoming more likely before October is done! My parent's house in Wildwood already touched 30 last Sat morning for a bit, but not at or below 26. We COULD be at or below 26 for a sustained period in the coming week plus. It will be interesting to see what the model runs show in about 3-5 days and how this ends up.
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Oct 19, 2019 0:06:33 GMT -6
I do recall a 1/2“ or so of wet, only on the grass, snow a few days to a week before Halloween in the late 60s. IIRC it came in the evening and was gone by morning. Temps must have been really marginal
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Oct 19, 2019 9:45:46 GMT -6
12z Icon has a STL snow Thursday night.
I’m ready for winter
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Post by demerson- Fletcher MO on Oct 19, 2019 9:56:42 GMT -6
12z Icon has a STL snow Thursday night. I’m ready for winter And Friday. Interesting.
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Post by unclesam6 on Oct 19, 2019 10:06:56 GMT -6
don't look at the 12z gfs.
we're literally riding the line between epic october wet snow event and a heavy, cold rain.
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Oct 19, 2019 10:16:34 GMT -6
don't look at the 12z gfs. we're literally riding the line between epic october wet snow event and a heavy, cold rain. Columbia is, not so much STL
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Post by unclesam6 on Oct 19, 2019 10:18:23 GMT -6
don't look at the 12z gfs. we're literally riding the line between epic october wet snow event and a heavy, cold rain. Columbia is, not so much STL I'm giving it the benefit of 140+ hours out. this kind of set up could knock any of us.
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Oct 19, 2019 10:22:10 GMT -6
Columbia is, not so much STL I'm giving it the benefit of 140+ hours out. this kind of set up could knock any of us. I expect the storm in Minnesota by Tuesday
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Post by unclesam6 on Oct 19, 2019 10:31:32 GMT -6
I'm giving it the benefit of 140+ hours out. this kind of set up could knock any of us. I expect the storm in Minnesota by Tuesday now we're talkin.
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Oct 19, 2019 10:38:26 GMT -6
Beautiful storm for Halloween on the 12z gfs as well.
Hopefully we can have this pattern sustain itself for a few months.
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Post by STGOutdoors on Oct 19, 2019 10:42:58 GMT -6
Man, if you removed the date stamps from the models you’d swear it was early December. Very impressive.
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Post by Jeffmw on Oct 19, 2019 10:52:53 GMT -6
Step away for a few hours and people are talking Snow on Halloween.
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Post by bdgwx on Oct 19, 2019 10:56:30 GMT -6
The GFS is a tease.
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Post by dschreib on Oct 19, 2019 11:01:48 GMT -6
I'll be sure to post that on FB. ;-) The record snowfall for both days involved is a trace If somebody doesn't use "Record-Setting Snowfall" as a headline, they're really missing out on a great opportunity.
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Post by ndolan387 on Oct 19, 2019 11:02:23 GMT -6
The crazy thing is that it has been showing this pattern now for multiple days!
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Oct 19, 2019 11:12:48 GMT -6
Don't forget to turn off your outside faucets and bring in your hoses.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Oct 19, 2019 11:34:02 GMT -6
One thing is for sure, the end of the month into November is going to be chilly
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Post by Snowman99 on Oct 19, 2019 16:31:56 GMT -6
So it's unanimously settled, we're getting 2-4 inches of snow by Halloween.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Oct 19, 2019 16:46:47 GMT -6
I was thinking 8-12 inches with blizzard like conditions but 2-4 would be ok I guess
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Post by mosue56 on Oct 19, 2019 17:03:29 GMT -6
Snows better than freezing rain any day!
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Oct 19, 2019 20:04:43 GMT -6
30 Day CFS run is just stupid loaded with cold and several snow chances or at least near misses especially around Halloween and the 8-19th of November with moderation around the first 7 days of November. We're in deep solar minimum, and the northeast pacific is crazy warm compared to normal, similar if not warmer than it was in 2013-14 combined with a QBO posed to go negative by December into the lower teens by January or February which encourages blocking especially -AO and to a lesser extent a -NAO or at least neutral as well as a strong signal of a La Nada (more formally called ENSO or neutral phase in the Nino regions). I think we're on tap for a very solid winter rivaling that of 2013-2014 possibly 1977-78 caliber. To say it will be historic and or record breaking is too hard to call, but the ingredients and the potential is there. At the very least it'll be the best winter in several years.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Oct 19, 2019 20:21:58 GMT -6
My thoughts are that we'll be active and cold (compared to normal) through November 2nd-5th, then we'll see a pull back to a milder and possibly wetter pattern with some late fall severe chances (1-2 instances) which will go on till the 18th-21st, then we should see the bottom fall out again for the final 8-9 days of November with something of interest around Turkey Day into the first days of December with another pull back for a couple weeks around Mid December to as late as Christmas with what might be some brutal cold around New Years into mid January before moderation take over for 2-3 weeks which takes us to February which models seem to be honing in on as the Climax of the Winter with brutal cold and perhaps a few good systems from both the clipper track and a southern storm or 2 which could result in snow on the ground for a couple weeks possibly with the pattern continuing into March but with some increasingly warmer surges the second half of the month but Winter could still visit us well into April at times.
November:
Temps: Slightly Below Average (warm spell mid month could erase most of the negative departures) Precip: Near Average Snow: Let's go above average not really hard to do in November
December:
Temps: Despite a cold start and possibly cold finish, most of the month looks relatively mild to warm compared to normal (So above average as a whole) Precip: Near to slightly below average Snow: Below Average (Note that any subtle shift in the pattern could cause high bust potential here...)
January:
Temps: Below Average as a whole, but expect a strong thaw 12-24th Should turn cold to brutal cold again near month's end Precip: Near Average Snow: Near average perhaps slightly above especially north and south of us (the old St. Louis Splits)
February:
Temps: Well Below Normal, almost solid cold through and through with only a brief break or 2 that lasts for a couple days each, some record are possible if conditions are right. Precip: Let's go slightly above normal especially south of I-70. Snow: Above normal, possibly well above especially south of I-70 with any southern lows.
March:
Temps: Near normal as a whole but a cold start and a milder finish Precip: Near normal Snow: Above normal especially the northern 2/3rds of the area otherwise near to slightly above normal.
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Post by Lovableweatherguy TROY,MO on Oct 19, 2019 21:58:24 GMT -6
In response...
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Oct 19, 2019 23:22:20 GMT -6
Congratulations to the Astros.
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