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Post by jmg378s on Jul 23, 2022 12:30:46 GMT -6
109 is really pushing it adj. We couldn't even manage that in 2012 with extreme drought.
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Post by amstilost on Jul 23, 2022 12:44:08 GMT -6
I am sitting at 106* on my remote unit 7 miles west of De Soto. It is usually 2* too warm. Any verifications from around this area?
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Post by yypc on Jul 23, 2022 12:45:32 GMT -6
102 with a 64 dew now. If dews were in the 50s Id think 108+ would be possible but it’s already almost 2pm.
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Post by yypc on Jul 23, 2022 12:47:34 GMT -6
109 is really pushing it adj. We couldn't even manage that in 2012 with extreme drought. 2012 was wild. I remember we’d be at 100 already by 10am on some of the really hot days.. Then some clouds would come thru and prevent things from going too far above.
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Post by amstilost on Jul 23, 2022 12:48:33 GMT -6
Someone in De Soto has a weather station on Wunderground and it is reporting 103* with HI of 112*.
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Post by John G -west belleville on Jul 23, 2022 13:12:50 GMT -6
98 in Belleville. I have a "beehive"on my outside sensor which is hanging at exactly 2m spice ground from a tree. No solar contamination.
Be mindful of your sensor setup.
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Post by Chris Higgins on Jul 23, 2022 13:42:50 GMT -6
Five minute obs out of Lambert indicate they have reached 104. However, it has to be 104 for 3 consecutive minutes to count from what I've been told.
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Post by jmg378s on Jul 23, 2022 13:58:46 GMT -6
Several 104 obs now so it's probably a lock
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Post by Lovableweatherguy TROY,MO on Jul 23, 2022 14:08:31 GMT -6
Five minute obs out of Lambert indicate they have reached 104. However, it has to be 104 for 3 consecutive minutes to count from what I've been told. Wow I didn't know there was a time frame with records. Learned something new today.
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Post by amstilost on Jul 23, 2022 14:12:22 GMT -6
This could have a lot to do with age/getting old but it sure seems like the 'intensity' of the sun has become stronger than I remember...(which also could have a lot to do with age). Just walking from the house to the outbuilding, when I get in full sunshine it feels like I am being 'microwaved'. I don't 'actually' knows what that feels like but can't think of a better description. I know I have less hair (none) than I used to so I am discounting that and just going by the feeling on bare legs and arms.
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Post by amstilost on Jul 23, 2022 14:14:23 GMT -6
Five minute obs out of Lambert indicate they have reached 104. However, it has to be 104 for 3 consecutive minutes to count from what I've been told. Wow I didn't know there was a time frame with records. Learned something new today. I didn't realize that either. Chris, has that parameter always occurred with temp measurements in the past?
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Jul 23, 2022 14:21:05 GMT -6
104 at 3 PM. Hottest day of the year to this point.
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Post by ajd446 on Jul 23, 2022 14:21:46 GMT -6
Sorry guys but spots are going to get close. Im showing 106 currently a degree or 2 is possible and a 108 109 i still feel is possible especially west of the airport. My parentd in ofallon have an accurite and they are 106.9 in ofallon. Western st.charles has beem much dryer than some of the area that may be enough to tip the scales.
But its just nowcasting any way you slice it its a scorcher out there
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Post by amstilost on Jul 23, 2022 14:22:07 GMT -6
This headline.......
"The World Meteorological Organization has ‘no immediate plans’ to name heatwaves."
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Post by tedrick65 on Jul 23, 2022 14:29:12 GMT -6
This headline....... "The World Meteorological Organization has ‘no immediate plans’ to name heatwaves." Seriously?
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Post by demerson- Fletcher MO on Jul 23, 2022 14:37:17 GMT -6
I am sitting at 106* on my remote unit 7 miles west of De Soto. It is usually 2* too warm. Any verifications from around this area? 102-103 here in Fletcher
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Post by Chris Higgins on Jul 23, 2022 14:42:42 GMT -6
5 minute obs show we briefly hit 106 about 20 mins ago. But then back to 104.
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Post by bdgwx on Jul 23, 2022 14:55:47 GMT -6
We're getting a consecutive string of 106 values now.
According to the ASOS User Guide the data logger samples once every 10 seconds. It then records a 1-min average. There are 1440 of those each day. We don't get to see those. It also reports 1440 5-min averages each day. We only get to see 288 of those on the 5-min METAR website. I'm seeing conflicting information on how the Tmax and Tmin are selected. Some of the literature says they are selected from the set of 1440 1-min averages and some says they are selected from the set of 1440 5-min averages. I'm not sure exactly which it is. I thought I had heard it is was 1-min average. Either way we often miss Tmax on that 5-min METAR website because we're only seeing a subset of the data.
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Post by John G -west belleville on Jul 23, 2022 15:03:55 GMT -6
Something is working to suppress temperatures on the east side. Reading 97 with with 47%rh heat index is 109. Wunderground map shows similar values.
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Post by John G -west belleville on Jul 23, 2022 15:11:21 GMT -6
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Post by guyatacomputer - NE St. Peters on Jul 23, 2022 15:12:44 GMT -6
This headline....... "The World Meteorological Organization has ‘no immediate plans’ to name heatwaves." They'll leave that for The Weather Channel to do.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Jul 23, 2022 15:34:49 GMT -6
Something is working to suppress temperatures on the east side. Reading 97 with with 47%rh heat index is 109. Wunderground map shows similar values. There's a tongue of deeper mixing working up 44 that's allowing temps to reach 105+. And likely some moisture pooling ahead of the OFB across IL keeping dewpoints elevated and temps lower on this side. It's been hovering around 98* in Brighton for a couple hours.
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Post by jmg378s on Jul 23, 2022 15:41:34 GMT -6
Probably would have been some fire weather concern and borderline red flag warning conditions in central MO in hindsight. But not seeing anything of concern on SW IR (fire band).
Take Columbia for example, 104F, 19% RH, and sustained wind of 22 mph gusting to 30 mph with moderate to severe drought conditions.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Jul 23, 2022 16:09:17 GMT -6
105° is the official high at lambert
Gross
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Post by John G -west belleville on Jul 23, 2022 16:18:50 GMT -6
Something is working to suppress temperatures on the east side. Reading 97 with with 47%rh heat index is 109. Wunderground map shows similar values. There's a tongue of deeper mixing working up 44 that's allowing temps to reach 105+. And likely some moisture pooling ahead of the OFB across IL keeping dewpoints elevated and temps lower on this side. It's been hovering around 98* in Brighton for a couple hours. Thanks. Based on the board, I thought I was way off. Glad it's accurate. Looks like 98 is the high here today as we've backed down to 96. I'm sure the heat index made it worse than the drier heat to the west
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Jul 23, 2022 16:45:21 GMT -6
We made it to 99* today...still haven't cracked 100* here. HI topped out at 111*
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Post by REB on Jul 23, 2022 17:06:28 GMT -6
My high today was 98* at 1:14 p.m.
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Post by bdgwx on Jul 23, 2022 17:24:44 GMT -6
105° is the official high at lambert Gross Ok, I think I figured out how the 5-minute METAR webpage is working. What I think it is doing is taking the raw F reading and storing it in C to the nearest integer. It then converts C to F when you have "US units" selected. That means there are values of F you'll never see. These values are 107, 105, 103, 101, 98, 96, 94, 92, etc. which are rounded up to 108, 106, 104, 102, 99, 97, 95, 93, etc. So when we see 106 it could be either 105 or 106. However, the hourly summary record does provide the exact F value. According to the ASOS User Guide the data logger stores 1-minute averages in 1/10 degree C. And according to the following blurb I believe the Tmin and Tmax are selected from the 1440 5-minute averages. Once each minute, ASOS uses the running 5-minute average ambient temperature to update the hourly maximum and minimum ambient temperatures. At the end of the hour (H+59), the cumulative maximum and minimum ambient temperatures for the hour and the minute(s) they occurred are stored in memory for 24 hours. All of this explains why the official Tmax can be 1 F lower than what you see on the 5-minute records. And the fact that we aren't seeing all of the 5-minute reports explains why the official Tmax an be higher that what you see.
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Post by Snowman99 on Jul 23, 2022 18:02:01 GMT -6
my high was 456543368. Or so.
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Post by jeffcobeeman on Jul 23, 2022 18:49:11 GMT -6
Made it to 105 here in Cedar Hill. Felt like I was living in an air fryer today when I went outside!
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