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Post by showtime - Marissa on Nov 8, 2022 23:16:59 GMT -6
Southerners would be real happy ….. we know how this always works out lol
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Post by STGOutdoors on Nov 9, 2022 7:38:47 GMT -6
I gotta say, I did not see this kind of cold happening this November, especially with the cold snap we had in October. Starting Saturday, we are pretty well locked in to mid to late December-like averages. That little southern impulse may be worth watching, but temps will be borderline.
It'll be interesting to see if it just keeps building on itself or washes out the cold, leaving us warm for December. This is certainly a different pattern than we are used to though.
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Nov 9, 2022 7:55:06 GMT -6
I gotta say, I did not see this kind of cold happening this November, especially with the cold snap we had in October. Starting Saturday, we are pretty well locked in to mid to late December-like averages. That little southern impulse may be worth watching, but temps will be borderline. It'll be interesting to see if it just keeps building on itself or washes out the cold, leaving us warm for December. This is certainly a different pattern than we are used to though. Models have been hinting at a PV split which would lead to a potentially cold/active early December followed by a mild pattern for a couple weeks after.
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Nov 9, 2022 10:15:29 GMT -6
12z gfs should get this place jumping.
Nice snowstorm in the day 5-6 range.
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Post by Snowman99 on Nov 9, 2022 10:15:44 GMT -6
dont look at the 12z gfs either
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Nov 9, 2022 10:23:11 GMT -6
We would really have something if we could get a full phase from the northern and southern stream.
12z gfs looks like a partial and STL does quite well although the temps are borderline.
Looks like the 12z ggem misses the phase, so pretty uneventful for its run.
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Nov 9, 2022 10:51:57 GMT -6
12z ukmet takes a different approach, but drops several inches of snow across the northern counties at day 5/6 as well.
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Post by STGOutdoors on Nov 9, 2022 11:34:29 GMT -6
We would really have something if we could get a full phase from the northern and southern stream. 12z gfs looks like a partial and STL does quite well although the temps are borderline. Looks like the 12z ggem misses the phase, so pretty uneventful for its run. Also, way out there, but both GFS and GEM have the ingredients for a big southern storm showing up at days 9-10. Early season tests for the models!
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Post by Chris Higgins on Nov 9, 2022 11:42:46 GMT -6
The ingredients look good next week. Strong shortwave in the right place, but I suspect cold air at the surface will be very questionable. Ground temps will still be quite warm. 2m Temps are colder on the 12z GFS. Timing will matter too. IF IF IF this system plays out and produces snow, accumulations would be hard to come by during the day. Now, areas that might see snow begin before sunrise would be a different story.
Actually an interesting situation... not ready to call it a storm to watch... but definitely one of interest.
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Post by Chris Higgins on Nov 9, 2022 11:57:49 GMT -6
Not quite official yet... but we appear to have broken the record for today.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Nov 9, 2022 12:17:19 GMT -6
Thanksgiving week looking colder as well. Less warmth then previous days. Canadian looks like it wants to bring the Arctic Hammer down the weekend prior to Turkey Day. This season is gonna be a ride.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Nov 9, 2022 12:38:07 GMT -6
A majority of GEFS members have some snow falling around here Tuesday. Accumulation looks very iffy but just seeing flakes would be cool.
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Post by bdgwx on Nov 9, 2022 12:50:08 GMT -6
We don't know the final high yet but we do know the record from 2020 for 11/9 of 78F has been broken.
I believe this is the 8th record high broken this year.
I don't think any record lows have occurred in 2022 yet.
I'm pretty busy this week, but when I get time I'll do some statistical analysis to see how unusual that is.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Nov 9, 2022 13:04:00 GMT -6
We've got 80*F on both sides of the river, Lambert and St. Louis Downtown Airport @ Cahokia Heights!
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Post by ajd446 on Nov 9, 2022 13:04:09 GMT -6
Wow we are likely shattering the record today, already 80 at 1 p.m. I would not be supprised to see 3 more degrees added to that. In my book I deem shattering as 4 plus degrees past the record for the date, however im not sure what criteria is for everyone else.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Nov 9, 2022 13:19:44 GMT -6
GFS is trending better with moisture supply next week with that system. It looks like it draws a disturbance in the W Gulf along the remnant boundary northward and phases that in with the main piece of energy. Would possibly support some light accumulations if it pans out like that. Need to see some better support before getting too excited.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Nov 9, 2022 15:03:33 GMT -6
Well looks like another 82*F done and dusted. Sun going down soon, so that should be a wrap on the temperature climb. Goes to show what warm temps aloft and down-slopping off the Ozark Plateau can do. Would of gotten even warmer if the winds were higher. Tomorrow is less favorable which is why mid 70s will likely be the max, but probably the last we see of t-shirt/shorts weather for awhile.
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Post by Worldserieschampions (Chicago) on Nov 9, 2022 16:16:30 GMT -6
18z gfs is pretty much as good as it gets for the setup next week in STL.
Even has the perfect time of day for accumulation.
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Post by REB on Nov 9, 2022 17:50:34 GMT -6
I topped out at 82.5*
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Post by Snowman99 on Nov 9, 2022 18:03:11 GMT -6
i topped out at 'too damn hot'
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Nov 9, 2022 21:13:50 GMT -6
The system next week does have quite a few things going for it. The position of the ridge over the top is nearly ideal, with the axis just north of the lakes. And the primary low tracks well to the south, with a pronounced inverted trof setting up to it's north into our region. That will make it tough to trend NW, as well as entrenching the cold air as it approaches. It's not looking like a big snowstorm, but I'm feeling better about the potential for a bit of snowfall after looking at today's runs. Some of the models show a pretty healthy looking shortwave moving through, although it does open up some as it approaches.
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Post by bdgwx on Nov 9, 2022 21:15:20 GMT -6
RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 428 PM CST WED NOV 09 2022
...PRELIMINARY RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT ST. LOUIS...
A PRELIMINARY RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 82 WAS SET AT ST. LOUIS TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 78 SET IN 1975.
I see 78 in 2020. The way records typically work is that you replace the year if there is a tie. I was expecting 2020 to be mentioned in the official report instead of 1975.
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Post by Lovableweatherguy TROY,MO on Nov 9, 2022 22:54:48 GMT -6
Ummmm, here we go with the nonsense!
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Post by giarC71 on Nov 10, 2022 4:36:44 GMT -6
Who's making this map?
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Post by snowjunky on Nov 10, 2022 6:40:21 GMT -6
That map has to be old from some other storm.
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Post by Chris Higgins on Nov 10, 2022 6:48:43 GMT -6
That map has to be old from some other storm. For sure... which is why I try and watermark and/or date my stuff as much as possible.
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Post by bellevillewxguy on Nov 10, 2022 7:15:10 GMT -6
Sneaky system might try to skirt the southeastern counties Friday overnight into Saturday morning, mainly south and east of St. Louis, but a couple models do bring flurries as far northwest as the metro area. That said other models are way south with this small system, but something to keep an eye on.
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Post by Jeffmw on Nov 10, 2022 8:40:35 GMT -6
Could this system next week have enough accumulation to be considered first snow of the season?
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Post by cardsnweather on Nov 10, 2022 8:51:06 GMT -6
Forgot how nice that time change is when it comes to model times!
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Post by cardsnweather on Nov 10, 2022 8:55:55 GMT -6
Could this system next week have enough accumulation to be considered first snow of the season? Could... Yes. Likely... No. Veterans Day snow 4 years ago was mostly during morning hours and accumulated pretty well.
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