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Post by Snowman99 on Sept 28, 2022 9:58:29 GMT -6
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Dave Malkoff
@malkoff
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Crazy #HurricaneHunt ! Our @usafreserve 53rd Weather Reconnaissance Squadron just landed. We hit hail, massive turbulence in the eye wall that dropped us 1000+ feet and saw #hurricaneIan rapidly intensity. It was NOT even calm inside the eye.
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Post by STGOutdoors on Sept 28, 2022 10:02:58 GMT -6
Damn, hail in the eye wall!? Never heard that one before.
Looks like landfall has occurred at Captiva by looking at radar. Timer lost his stream a while back unfortunately.
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Post by amstilost on Sept 28, 2022 10:08:30 GMT -6
Looks like on WV loops that the dry air/shear from STJ is being drawn in the southern flank so it 'looks less intense'. I noticed the 12pm update has the same coordinates and wind speed as the 11am update. Is that a coincidence or did they use the 11am data?
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Sept 28, 2022 10:09:31 GMT -6
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Sept 28, 2022 10:16:12 GMT -6
years ago I worked with a guy who flew recons into hurricanes back in his day. For some reason, we've had several former military meteorologists come through our team as data modelers. They seem to make great data modelers. At any rate, he could tell countless stories about his experiences. I would imagine he'd say, "meh!" about the 700 vertical jostling. It's been years since he's retired from our firm, so I don't know if he's still around. Dave Malkoff with TWC was on the flight. They lost over 1000 feet with the nose angled 15 deg up. I wonder if there's a virtual reality ride somewhere to "feel the experience". lol |
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Sept 28, 2022 10:28:09 GMT -6
Quote Tweet Dave Malkoff @malkoff · 34m Crazy #HurricaneHunt ! Our @usafreserve 53rd Weather Reconnaissance Squadron just landed. We hit hail, massive turbulence in the eye wall that dropped us 1000+ feet and saw #hurricaneIan rapidly intensity. It was NOT even calm inside the eye. Ian seems different than the classic tropical system I've always understood from a textbook perspective - hail and lightning at the wall, and not even calm inside the eye. I blame covid. |
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Sept 28, 2022 10:37:13 GMT -6
The intense lightning indicates a lot of cloud ice present, so hail production is possible...but I've never heard of that either. Would think the intense winds and warm core structure would hamper hail growth.
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Post by showtime - Marissa on Sept 28, 2022 10:53:00 GMT -6
Just found out that my niece and nephew didn’t get out of Fort Myers…… Those kids are in for a rough day
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Post by jeepers on Sept 28, 2022 10:59:01 GMT -6
Hope that they stay safe.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Sept 28, 2022 11:00:06 GMT -6
The intense lightning indicates a lot of cloud ice present, so hail production is possible...but I've never heard of that either. Would think the intense winds and warm core structure would hamper hail growth. Makes me think Ian isn’t purely a tropical system. I know it’s getting a boost from the jet streak across the northeast  |
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Post by showtime - Marissa on Sept 28, 2022 11:09:42 GMT -6
Hope that they stay safe. Thanks ! |
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Post by STGOutdoors on Sept 28, 2022 11:15:53 GMT -6
I can’t recall a similar situation to what Ian is doing in terms of interaction with the frontal boundary. The satellite presentation is incredible with the plume extending all the way to Greenland.
Hopefully it doesn’t stay over water too long after it crosses FL. Could bring major surge into Charleston SC.
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Post by REB on Sept 28, 2022 11:49:32 GMT -6
I can’t recall a similar situation to what Ian is doing in terms of interaction with the frontal boundary. The satellite presentation is incredible with the plume extending all the way to Greenland. Hopefully it doesn’t stay over water too long after it crosses FL. Could bring major surge into Charleston SC. Cancelled trip to Savannah, Hilton Head and Charleston that was to start tomorrow. Fortunately, no loss monetarily. Two trips cancelled two years in a row because of Hurricanes. |
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Post by bdgwx on Sept 28, 2022 13:02:16 GMT -6
I'm in an argument with multiple people on the wattsupwiththat.com blog who think Ian is only a tropical storm and that uprooted trees and broken windows will be the extent of the damage. The stupidity of some people almost defies credulity.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Sept 28, 2022 13:11:38 GMT -6
I'm in an argument with multiple people on the wattsupwiththat.com blog who think Ian is only a tropical storm and that uprooted trees and broken windows will be the extent of the damage. The stupidity of some people almost defies credulity. I saw similar claims made when Laura made landfall in LA...people were assuming it wasn't bad because there wasn't immediate reports of devastation coming in. |
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Post by jeepers on Sept 28, 2022 13:16:58 GMT -6
The morning after Katrina, I remember a reporter saying something like ‘we dodged a bullet…
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Post by Snowman99 on Sept 28, 2022 13:20:48 GMT -6
Hurricane Ian Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092022
310 PM EDT Wed Sep 28 2022
...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE IAN MAKES LANDFALL IN
SOUTHWESTERN FLORIDA...
NOAA Doppler radar imagery indicates that the eye of Ian made
landfall along the southwestern coast of Florida near Cayo Costa
around 305 PM EDT (1905 UTC). Data from an Air Force Reserve
reconnaissance aircraft indicate that Ian's maximum sustained winds
were estimated to be near 150 mph (240 km/h). The latest minimum
central pressure estimated from reconnaissance data is 940 mb
(27.75 inches).
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Post by bdgwx on Sept 28, 2022 14:56:10 GMT -6
The highest wind gust I've seen over land is 135 mph in Cape Coral, FL. The KPGD station reported 123 mph at 4:10pm before it stopped reporting.
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Post by Lovableweatherguy TROY,MO on Sept 28, 2022 15:22:35 GMT -6
My wife's cousin is hanging in there. They are in Cape Coral, FL.
Their hurricane windows they invested in are holding well. However lots of damage outside and they think something is going on with the roof. Hoping it holds too.
They are worried about flooding though. So far nothing inside.
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Post by beaker - Dardenne Prairie, MO on Sept 28, 2022 15:50:23 GMT -6
My friends and family have visited hilton head today, and are in Savannah now, where they plan to stay put. Hotels are booked.
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Post by ndolan387 on Sept 28, 2022 17:08:00 GMT -6
The intense lightning indicates a lot of cloud ice present, so hail production is possible...but I've never heard of that either. Would think the intense winds and warm core structure would hamper hail growth. Makes me think Ian isn’t purely a tropical system. I know it’s getting a boost from the jet streak across the northeast Wow thanks for sharing this. |
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Sept 28, 2022 19:14:51 GMT -6
That rainband on the N flank of the core is unrelenting...looks like 3"/hr stuff and it's slowed to a crawl.
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Post by cozpregon on Sept 28, 2022 19:50:00 GMT -6
The pilot talking about the amount of mesocyclones and tornadoes in the eye wall was something he’s never seen
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Post by cozpregon on Sept 28, 2022 20:07:41 GMT -6
The pilot talking about the amount of mesocyclones and tornadoes in the eye wall was something he’s never seen Probably why they were hanging out in Houston and New Orleans BDG |
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Post by showtime - Marissa on Sept 28, 2022 20:31:05 GMT -6
Good news and bad news ….. my niece and nephew are ok but they had to evacuate their home this afternoon . They live a few blocks from the Caloosahatchwe River …. They have received pictures that their house is under water ! I’m so thankful they left when they did
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Post by jmg378s on Sept 28, 2022 21:58:36 GMT -6
I can’t recall a similar situation to what Ian is doing in terms of interaction with the frontal boundary. The satellite presentation is incredible with the plume extending all the way to Greenland. Hopefully it doesn’t stay over water too long after it crosses FL. Could bring major surge into Charleston SC. Good observation. Ian managed to become situated in an ideal location relative to a jet streak just to it's northeast. And remained in the same relative position during the transit from Cuba to Florida (the jet streak progressing with the cyclone). The trough was providing one hell of an outflow channel and you can see that in a water vapor loop where it's not too difficult to track the long journey of ejected parcels all the way to the north central Atlantic. Compared to the short distance from Cuba to Florida that's a lot of mass being vented out of the storm. |
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Sept 28, 2022 22:53:55 GMT -6
I can’t recall a similar situation to what Ian is doing in terms of interaction with the frontal boundary. The satellite presentation is incredible with the plume extending all the way to Greenland. Hopefully it doesn’t stay over water too long after it crosses FL. Could bring major surge into Charleston SC. Good observation. Ian managed to become situated in an ideal location relative to a jet streak just to it's northeast. And remained in the same relative position during the transit from Cuba to Florida (the jet streak progressing with the cyclone). The trough was providing one hell of an outflow channel and you can see that in a water vapor loop where it's not too difficult to track the long journey of ejected parcels all the way to the north central Atlantic. Compared to the short distance from Cuba to Florida that's a lot of mass being vented out of the storm. This was my line of thinking as well. That jet streak is the equivalent of putting an expensive exhaust system on a sports car allowing the engine to work more efficiently. The engine in this case would be the convection around the eye wall. |
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Post by jeepers on Sept 29, 2022 7:23:49 GMT -6
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Post by bdgwx on Sept 29, 2022 7:41:00 GMT -6
We have to remember to take these reports with a grain of salt until the actual counts are published, but law enforcement is saying fatalities will be in the hundreds.
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Raja72
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Waterloo, IL
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Post by Raja72 on Sept 29, 2022 7:55:41 GMT -6
All family in Estero and Ft Myers are safe. Still assessing damage. Prayers for all Corner members with family in SW Florida. Hoping all family members are safe. Material things can be replaced, people cannot.
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