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Post by WEAXWATCHER on Nov 4, 2024 19:52:37 GMT -6
Yeah... thinking a flash flood watch might be a good idea. A quick offline chat leads me to believe one will be coming soon. FF Watch is coming shortly for southeast 1/2 to 2/3rds of my viewing area... including metro STL. Southeast? Or Southwest?
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Post by Chris Higgins on Nov 4, 2024 19:58:25 GMT -6
That is a very healthy RIJ with that bowing line. Appears to be heading right for STL... or metro west. We are in position in Cuba.
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seyahmit
Weather Weenie
Hwys K & N, O'Fallon, MO
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Post by seyahmit on Nov 4, 2024 20:05:04 GMT -6
Just passed the 3" mark since midnight and 3.41" total in O'Fallon, MO.
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lunchladyd
Junior Forecaster
On the Troy -Silex, Mo. line
Posts: 399
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Post by lunchladyd on Nov 4, 2024 20:05:48 GMT -6
We've had 3 inches since last night, and another inch and 3/4 the other night.
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Post by ajd446 on Nov 4, 2024 20:07:18 GMT -6
4.47 storm total so far in south st.peters
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Post by Chris Higgins on Nov 4, 2024 20:27:01 GMT -6
Watching bowing segment closely coming up I-44. Two broad circulations with RIJ support. Tornado warnings may be needed soon if they continue to organize.
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Post by let it snow11 on Nov 4, 2024 21:49:52 GMT -6
Got home from work about 6 pm this evening. My 5 inch rain gauge was full and likely overflowed during the day. So I have no accurate report really. Most rain I've seen from one storm in quite some time. Sounds like more to come tonight.
Northern St. Francois county.
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Post by jmg378s on Nov 4, 2024 21:50:17 GMT -6
Seeing debris signature on radar north of Wentzville.
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Post by John G -west belleville on Nov 4, 2024 21:54:51 GMT -6
Seeing debris signature on radar north of Wentzville. Seems to have some longevity...
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Post by STGOutdoors on Nov 4, 2024 22:08:51 GMT -6
Well that was the definition of a spin up tornado. Amazing how high res the CC scans are now, you can really pick up even the smallest tornadoes. I think we catch a lot more of them than we did before, and I’ve noticed a lot more of them being captured over very rural areas which mainly is just going to be leaves and sticks of course. I’ve had to kind of adjust my perspective on CC drops. 10 years ago it was almost always a violent tornado that produced them. Now you get a small one that tears through the forest and it looks quite menacing.
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Post by Chris Higgins on Nov 4, 2024 22:26:01 GMT -6
I barely posted about the line break and boom... there was a TDS. I can't type any faster lol.
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Post by amstilost on Nov 4, 2024 22:47:47 GMT -6
Just had gust front and a heavy rain shower move through but then stopped so I'm waiting for some more wind 7 miles west of DeSoto.
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Post by jmg378s on Nov 4, 2024 23:01:57 GMT -6
Looked at radar data leading up to the tornado and didn't see anything that would have warranted a warning until the tornado was already occurring. Here is when the tornado first showed up on radar. Appears to be debris just starting to show up at this moment but time, track, and height continuity of CC drop wasn't obvious until the next scan. That's how fast these QLCS tornadoes develop.
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Post by amstilost on Nov 4, 2024 23:02:21 GMT -6
Glad the wind wasn't as strong as I thought it was going to be looking at the radar. Moderate rain with occasional bursts of heavy rain. Hopefully it won't be real heavy to cause any more flash flooding.
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Post by jmg378s on Nov 4, 2024 23:07:22 GMT -6
Well that was the definition of a spin up tornado. Amazing how high res the CC scans are now, you can really pick up even the smallest tornadoes. I think we catch a lot more of them than we did before, and I’ve noticed a lot more of them being captured over very rural areas which mainly is just going to be leaves and sticks of course. I’ve had to kind of adjust my perspective on CC drops. 10 years ago it was almost always a violent tornado that produced them. Now you get a small one that tears through the forest and it looks quite menacing. Yeah we certainly catch a lot more of these in the dual-pol era, but I think a lot of these are still missed. Debris height with this one was only up to 3k ft and beyond about 50 or even 40nmi from radar would have missed it
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Post by thechaser on Nov 4, 2024 23:10:31 GMT -6
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Post by Chris Higgins on Nov 4, 2024 23:49:15 GMT -6
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Post by amstilost on Nov 5, 2024 1:06:13 GMT -6
Just had the heaviest rain I've seen all day, ongoing for the last 15 minutes. Only a couple rumbles of thunder. And this is still only the very Southern edge of the rain shield and I keep seeing more developing at the very Southwestern edge of the radar. This pattern better continue into winter when we get some cold air/snow to work with.🤞🤞🤞🙏🙏🙏 Rain just did lighten up.👍👍
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Post by amstilost on Nov 5, 2024 1:30:13 GMT -6
Well crap, Flash Flood warning just went off at 1:26.
Edit: At least the southern counties had a nice long break of no rain so hopefully those creeks and rivers were able to go down before this round slides into them.
Edit 2: Bluff View Marina reported inflow from The Black River into Clearwater Lake is up to 58,000cfs. The lake is rising 2.55' an hour and is at 505.98 elevation as of 1 hour ago. The marina had posted the flow this morning was 400cfs.
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Post by shrapnel - Arnold, MO on Nov 5, 2024 5:21:07 GMT -6
Storm total 7.41" as of 5am in Arnold.
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Post by sgdragons on Nov 5, 2024 5:35:40 GMT -6
Well crap, Flash Flood warning just went off at 1:26. Edit: At least the southern counties had a nice long break of no rain so hopefully those creeks and rivers were able to go down before this round slides into them. Edit 2: Bluff View Marina reported inflow from The Black River into Clearwater Lake is up to 58,000cfs. The lake is rising 2.55' an hour and is at 505.98 elevation as of 1 hour ago. The marina had posted the flow this morning was 400cfs. Trying to post photos but having a hard time. Also an anomaly for this time of the year(2016 was maybe the last time?). We have a house by River Side(few miles North of Clearwater). The Black was bone dry on Sunday.
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Post by BRTNWXMAN on Nov 5, 2024 6:21:16 GMT -6
Storm total 4.5" in Brighton so far...heck of a rainstorm
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Post by shrapnel - Arnold, MO on Nov 5, 2024 6:31:13 GMT -6
Meramec and Big River gauges appear to be MUCH higher than what was predicted on the gauges this morning. Meramec is 4' higher now than the noon prediction and Big River is 5' higher than what was expected.
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Post by ajd446 on Nov 5, 2024 6:31:59 GMT -6
Since Sunday 8.39 inches and still pouring. Heck of a November rainstorm
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Post by WEAXWATCHER on Nov 5, 2024 6:33:29 GMT -6
3.96" here total so far.
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Post by mchafin on Nov 5, 2024 6:45:01 GMT -6
I emptied the rain gauge between the lulls last night, woke up this morning to a flooded basement, and the rain gauge is full again. The rain gauge I have is 5 inches. I’m suspecting Sunset Hills has seen over 10 inches of rain, which would explain why my basement, which hasn’t flooded in 20 whatever years has flooded. Fun fact, we just finished it!
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lunchladyd
Junior Forecaster
On the Troy -Silex, Mo. line
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Post by lunchladyd on Nov 5, 2024 6:52:42 GMT -6
So we had another 2 inches overnight. So that is 5 inches in the last 36 hours here in Silex, adding the inche and 3/4 from the other night. Pretty sure the cuivre will be flooding.
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Post by REB on Nov 5, 2024 7:03:32 GMT -6
5.43” and counting
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Post by ajd446 on Nov 5, 2024 7:12:37 GMT -6
What's really amazing is how widespread the 6 to 12 plus rain totals will be all across Eastern mo.
It's more than just a narrow band, it's almost a 100 mile wide band give or take either side of 44. From south central mo to east central mo, south east mo and southwest illinois
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Post by tedrick65 on Nov 5, 2024 7:31:12 GMT -6
5.7" since midnight. 12.25" since 8pm Sunday in High Ridge. Radar only has me at about 8" total.
At least Eastward movement has started and it looks like the lift is starting to die out some.
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