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Post by lizard7151971 on Aug 22, 2014 19:53:35 GMT -6
A blog is not a reliable source no matter what views it embraces. A stated "reliable source" is NOT a reliable source in my eyes. How many times have news organizations, on both sides of the political spectrum, been burned by "reliable sources". Even CNN, who is disputing this claim can only say they have it from "reliable sources". Yet they hold more credibility with me on their reliable sources than someone who writes from their basement and calls themselves a journalist. Does not mean they are right or the person who rights the blog is wrong, just that an established news organization such as CNN has more credibility in my eyes. And as far as the "liberal" media goes, I am so tired of hearing that statement whenever someone does not agree with the news or when the news does not cover the story you think they should or the way you think they should. Does the mainstream media tend to lean a little toward the left? I do believe it does. But they will report a story no matter what it is as long as it gets ratings. If this injury were true the media would be all over it, as it would be another sensational piece to add to this media circus. I find it amusing that the same people who are denouncing CNN's report that the eye socket injury is not true are the same people that were ecstatic when CNN confirmed that the story told by Officer Wilson's friend to a local talk show matched the report the police had. Sounds a little like the protesters, only believing what they want to believe and denouncing anything does not fit in with their idea of what really happened. Fozzie I'll be honest with you, as much as it pains me to say this, but the Anonymous group has been funneling out more truth (Later confirmed on the news), as it happens. Sure they are radical and their methods could be questioned. But they are dedicated with the operation and search all facts out before releasing them to the public. Of course I take it with a grain of salt until I hear if it is real. I have seen some posts they re-tweet sound a little WAY off the wall for me to believe.
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Post by Snowman99 on Aug 22, 2014 20:18:57 GMT -6
coz- I know it's not just the right. The left has said some sh1t too. I have tried to play to both sides with any info I look at and post on FB or whatever. This is a fascinating story, that we have all witnessed, and will be talked about for generations. Hopefully we get the real story before I die.lol
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Post by lizard7151971 on Aug 22, 2014 20:43:44 GMT -6
coz- I know it's not just the right. The left has said some sh1t too. I have tried to play to both sides with any info I look at and post on FB or whatever. This is a fascinating story, that we have all witnessed, and will be talked about for generations. Hopefully we get the real story before I die.lol You know it is funny that you said about the real story. I was telling my wife that in normal cases, you would know in 48-72 hours if the person was going to get charged. But with this one, it has been nearly 2 weeks, and nothing in site. I heard one report (Some news station, I can't remember) that it could be up to Oct. (For Federal) before we hear anything. I truly believe, they are waiting for the "Outside" protestors to leave. So when the announcement happens, they will have limited individuals to deal with. As I said before, it can go two ways. If he is found guilty, the crowds would be rejoicing and could case come Havoc, but still maintainable. If found innocent Well, I am sure we all know what could happen if there was a large crowd was there. A smaller crowd would be more maintained. But the backlash would be the "Outsiders" funneling back in. However, the police could block streets and prevent the "Outsiders" from making their way into the city. But this case needs to done and over with! My twitter feed will drop drastically... LOL
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Post by Frivolousz21 on Aug 23, 2014 4:36:40 GMT -6
So his eye being wrecked and bones being shattered was made up?
Geezus.
I stopped following this right when that story came out.
But mostly the way so many on my facebook and the overwhelming majority of comments on websites from cowardly white people who shout their hate vile racist bullsh*t sent me back to my own little world.
Just totally shameful and embarrassing. I had suspicions that there was a large "minority" of white people in the closet with their racist views towards minorities but what I have seen the last week is just shameful and sad.
If I hear another white person justify their own racism by saying "they" are racist against us or me I might lose it.
Newsflash I don't care. If 10 million minorities think I am a honky cracker. Good for them. It's honestly a little funny. For starters any person can hold themselves accountable as the person they want to be or are without outside influence.
The term race need to go. It's a fallacy for one. And it stems from historic prejudice and racism. At the most the term culture would apply a lot better then race. There is no white race or black race or brown race that is just beyond stupid.
According to multiple science outlets every person in America white or black, every Asian, European, most Africans and everyone else outside of two small groups in Ethiopia and some other African Country that I can't recall has 1-4% neanderthal DNA. Oh yeah. That means at some point. Native Americans, Caucasian Europeans, most black Africans and Americans, all asians and anyone else from Inuit to pacific islander all interbred since homo sapiens met up with neanderthals.
What is even more striking about this is that every homo sapien when our species left Africa was black. Oh my Oh my. So in essence from 220K years ago to about 40-70K years ago it could be argued that black people dominated the world since they were the only homo sapiens to exist for that period.
Now considering neanderthals evolved hundreds of thousands of years before homo sapien arrived and left Africa, considering both species were so close in DNA neanderthal was absorbed into homo sapiens when they died off.
So technically white neanderthals from the frigid Europe/Northern Asia region would of been there first.
Damn the Man is always holding a brother down.
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Post by Snowman99 on Aug 23, 2014 7:04:50 GMT -6
You're right Frivs, the racism that has come out in the last 2 weeks is appalling. Trying to justify it by saying THEY are racist against US is the dumbest damn thing I've ever seen. There have been some naive, blind people in this country saying racism is dead. Yeah, right.
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Post by Jeffmw on Aug 23, 2014 21:53:35 GMT -6
I like Fox2News I really Do. But why are they showing Mike Brown's funeral in Full? I don't recall them ever doing it for any St Louis Police officers killed in the line of duty but they are doing it for a person who robbed a covenant store and possibly assaulted a police officer?
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Post by lizard7151971 on Aug 23, 2014 22:22:01 GMT -6
I like Fox2News I really Do. But why are they showing Mike Brown's funeral in Full? I don't recall them ever doing it for any St Louis Police officers killed in the line of duty but they are doing it for a person who robbed a covenant store and possibly assaulted a police officer? I do remember them doing a Police office or it was a Firefighter's funeral, a long while back. But I can understand it. The turn out is going to be huge. It could gather back another crowd. Not to mention, word on the street (Twitter traffic), that the Westboro(sp) Baptist Church (The radical baptist church that protest military funerals) is going to be out there protesting, and I am seeing (For about a week or so now), the KKK is talking about showing up. So, that would be news worthy. No telling how that could turn out. Now the above is JUST rumor I have seen on twitter and in FB posts. I can't say it will be fact. Many of these groups put stuff out in rumor to draw attention to themselves. But never go through with it. But like I said, I am sure it is going to be a huge media frenzy out there, and whoever can get the most coverage, will come out on top. Not to mention that many "Network" shows will use the footage (I am not sure if they buy it, or it is given to them with the stipulation of Station ID.). Plus it's their Job. To report breaking and note worthy news. Also we don't know how this will play out. It could (once again) make nationwide news. So this is not over yet (As I type this, I see Fox2 is reporting a disturbance there). Also, the shows in that time frame are all repeats, so it is not like they are going to lose some major viewers.....
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Post by SnowManJoe - Wentzville, MO on Aug 25, 2014 9:04:47 GMT -6
I am becoming more and more concerned by the assumption of racism. Assume for the momemnt that the worst is true and that Wilson killed Mark Brown in cold blood with his hands raised. Even if that were true what evidence do you have that it was racially motivated?
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Post by Jeffmw on Aug 25, 2014 10:07:36 GMT -6
There is none it's just the left wing anti cop media that is pushing that people like Al Sharpton
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Post by Jeffmw on Aug 25, 2014 10:14:43 GMT -6
I am VERY disappointed in Fox2 KTVI FOR showing this person's funeral. Showing it like he was some civil rights leader he wasn't he was a person who robbed a convenient store and assaulted a police officer
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Post by Jeffmw on Aug 25, 2014 10:54:40 GMT -6
Convent Store I mean
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Post by Snowman99 on Aug 25, 2014 16:25:45 GMT -6
what the hell is a convent store? place to buy nuns?
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Post by Snowman99 on Aug 25, 2014 16:34:19 GMT -6
And yes, all leftists hate cops. Just like all rightists hate women. Who cares if 2 aired the funeral, so did most other channels and networks. They had a huge overflow crowd, it was hotter than hell, and more people who couldn't make it wanted to see it somehow. They did these people a favor, and probably made a bit of money in the process, though not sure about that. Just turn the damn channel. I'm always amazed by people who complain about what a channel airs. JUST PUSH THE BUTTON ON YOUR REMOTE. Takes about 1 second.
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Post by lizard7151971 on Aug 25, 2014 16:51:56 GMT -6
And yes, all leftists hate cops. Just like all rightists hate women. Who cares if 2 aired the funeral, so did most other channels and networks. They had a huge overflow crowd, it was hotter than hell, and more people who couldn't make it wanted to see it somehow. They did these people a favor, and probably made a bit of money in the process, though not sure about that. Just turn the damn channel. I'm always amazed by people who complain about what a channel airs. JUST PUSH THE BUTTON ON YOUR REMOTE. Takes about 1 second. You know, I had a person my FB post how they hated how the media is putting out Mike Brown as a Hero. Not in one report have I seen any story making him out a hero. More defenseless person that was gunned down. Now, I am sure there is more we don't know about... And I am sure when the final details are announced, it will again flood the media one way or another. But I never really seen this as a matter of race, but more of the power of the police vs. civilians, and where the line is drawn. And there are several of things I have seen pointing 1 way or the other on the race issue. But none of them were creditable enough to post. But like I said before this is a news worthy story. If there was not enough audience to view, I am sure the stations would not have aired it. And it's not like Fox 2 aired the WHOLE funeral. Just the highlights. I watched it, and I am 60+ miles from STL. I could easily say it didn't happen in my area, so it don't concern me. I could stick my head in the sand like a few on my FB is doing, and not follow it. But I am wanting to see how this pans out. This single case could change the way police operate all over the USA. This could be a case we tell our grandchildren about on why law enforcement does what they do. No telling. But like you said, if a person don't like what they are viewing, there is a channel up and down button, or the power button. If you are so upset about it, call Fox 2 and demand your money back... Because after all, you paid for it. Oh wait, you didn't. (This isn't directly pointed at a single person. I have been seeing the same thinking on FB too).
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Post by Snowman99 on Aug 27, 2014 9:29:28 GMT -6
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Post by Jeffmw on Aug 27, 2014 15:10:21 GMT -6
If gateway pundit can't be trusted because of it's political position on the brown shooting then how can SALON.
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Post by Jeffmw on Sept 28, 2014 8:41:45 GMT -6
We had to just Recently move out of Ferguson. Just was not safe anymore.
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Post by SnowManJoe - Wentzville, MO on Oct 21, 2014 21:38:11 GMT -6
We had to just Recently move out of Ferguson. Just was not safe anymore. I think you made wise choice. It wont be long now until the stuff really hits the fan. If the info trickling out about Officer Wilson's account are accurate there is no way he gets charged.
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Post by lizard7151971 on Oct 22, 2014 9:15:31 GMT -6
We had to just Recently move out of Ferguson. Just was not safe anymore. I think you made wise choice. It wont be long now until the stuff really hits the fan. If the info trickling out about Officer Wilson's account are accurate there is no way he gets charged. I seen a tweet yesterday, that a former officer claims that they are slowly trickling info out leaning to the side of no charges, so it will be less of a blow to the community. He claims this is common practice in high profile cases. I still think that once it is all out, Ferguson will not be the place to be. No matter how much they sugar coat it. I am not throwing judgement out there, just seeing the way the initial reaction was vs. a final verdict.
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Post by Jeffmw on Nov 11, 2014 14:17:26 GMT -6
Snowman99 set up this thread here to talk about the Ferguson Issue.
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Post by stlweatherguy - Hillsboro, MO on Nov 11, 2014 15:57:45 GMT -6
Racism if still very evident, and I am curious to find out more information regarding the case...until then I will try to remain neutral, but I cringe to think what will happen if the grand jury does not hand down an indictment. I fear a bunch more people will die not in the name of justice, but in the name of revenge.
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Post by lizard7151971 on Nov 11, 2014 20:52:28 GMT -6
Racism if still very evident, and I am curious to find out more information regarding the case...until then I will try to remain neutral, but I cringe to think what will happen if the grand jury does not hand down an indictment. I fear a bunch more people will die not in the name of justice, but in the name of revenge. I've seen a lot of evidence that has been leaked out. And I am really hoping the GJ has it all. I heard some didn't want to release it, in fear that they would be under the Microscope. But I am not going into what I feel it should be. That is my opinion, and I will keep it there. What I am watching is the possibilities when it is announced. I have seen (Actual Pictures), of things law enforcement is gearing up to use (Once again, pictures taken by those on the ground). And I also have seen pictures of things Protesters are planing to use. I know I got hint that Ferguson is planning on closing all entrances in to town, once it is announced. To prevent outsiders from coming in. However seeing several tweets that many outsiders are already in town, and more plan to "Sneak" in before the Decision is made. Now, I am sure Law Enforcement sees the same tweets (And maybe even more) that I see, hence the reason they are gearing up. But the protesters are too, and let me tell you, it looks like both sides are planing on war. I hope that this plays out that both sides were just over reacting. But to be honest, I would not want to be anywhere around the Ferguson area when it is announced. Most of the protesters are wanting a peaceful protest. However there are the bad apples that plan on causing problems, due to their hatred towards officers. I've seen tweets that say "We will protest, and no (insert slang word for police), will stand in our way". Just scary on what the good citizens of Ferguson is going to face in the upcoming week(s). I even seen one Tweet about the media being there. They wanted them out, because all they are doing is searching for a story, and not caring about the situation (Of course I cleaned it up, and rephrased it so it was G rated).
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Post by Jeffmw on Nov 13, 2014 19:23:01 GMT -6
I hope the Grand Jury makes the announcement this weekend so the Protesters will get a cold reception.
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Post by lizard7151971 on Nov 13, 2014 19:30:15 GMT -6
I hope the Grand Jury makes the announcement this weekend so the Protesters will get a cold reception. Hmmm, Maybe "Sometime" this weekend if the rumors are true, after 4pm..... And it is hinted that the colds is one of the reasons it is being held off.. Don't know how true that is, but makes you think....
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Post by lizard7151971 on Nov 17, 2014 14:15:01 GMT -6
Nixon Just declared a "State of Emergency" Thinking verdict will be coming soon....
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Post by lizard7151971 on Nov 21, 2014 14:06:33 GMT -6
Getting rumor off twitter feed that the Hospital in Ferguson has cleared 3 floor in Prep for victims of rioting and violence. Once again, take it with a grain of salt, it is the net and could be false.
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Post by Jeffmw on Nov 21, 2014 14:52:28 GMT -6
Ferguson it's self does not have a Hospital there are several near by.
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Post by Snowstorm920 on Nov 21, 2014 17:29:29 GMT -6
SLU told us today that they are planning on having classes Monday and Tuesday as well as scheduled weekend events. Of course they added that depending on the grand jury verdict things might change. There's been a lot of talk around campus of planned protest on school grounds by student organizations. I'm just worried that some people looking to start trouble might join in on the student protest and cause a problem.
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Post by lizard7151971 on Nov 21, 2014 17:50:21 GMT -6
I think the main threat will be those from out of town. Right now (ONLY RUMORS), I am hearing of the KKK down there. Along with several Anons (Who have been calling for more to get down there ASAP). Last thing I seen posted, is a KKK member attacked a member (And his camera man) of the Press. IDK how true it is. But I am sure that the more that floods the streets (Outsiders), the higher the possibility of mobbing and riots.
They really should be monitoring the crowds now, and singling out those who look to be wanting to cause trouble, so when it is announced. I am not going to state the day and time, because there has been several posted (Leaked), but there are many that feel it will come this weekend. However, once again, they were leaked before and either they were wrong, or the GJ got wind of it, and pushed it off. Who knows. But I am sure the longer they wait, the longer it allows for the outsiders to come in an establish their collectives.
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Post by lizard7151971 on Nov 21, 2014 18:18:38 GMT -6
Just received this on twitter
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